
Introduction
In my last essay I explained there are 4 primary lenses through which to view our overshoot predicament. I argued that the CACTUS lens (Complexity Accelerated Collapse of a Thermodynamically Unsustainable System) provides the clearest view of what to expect and what we should do.
Unfortunately, what US leaders have decided to do in Iran is the opposite of what CACTUS prescribes, which means we should expect the time to collapse to be shorter now than it was a week ago.
Explanations given by US leaders for why they attacked Iran have been muddled, fluid, and unconvincing. They include:
- nuclear weapons need to be obliterated again
- conventional missiles threaten nuclear armed Israel
- Iran supports people defending their own land (aka terrorists)
- protecting protesters harmed by the US attack on Iran’s currency
- regime change
- pre-empting an attack on US
Counter explanations from justifiably skeptical journalists and analysts are also varied including:
- Israel influence on US politics to achieve regional power goals
- Epstein distraction
- Evangelical Christians believe middle east conflict required for Jesus to return
- hatred of Muslims and/or Arabs
- revenge for American embassy hostages
- Iranian theocratic regime is evil and not supported by most citizens
Each of these explanations no doubt motivates different groups, however none of them are the reason the US attacked Iran.
In this essay I explain the real reason US leaders attacked Iran, why they are lying to us, and why, as CACTUS explains, the US has made things worse for all countries, including themselves.
My explanation does not require US leaders to have extraordinary awareness or intelligence, nor to have rare defective denial genes, and I assume US leaders are mostly good people trying to do the right thing for their citizens, which increases the probability that I am correct.
Risks
The risks US leaders have taken by starting a war with Iran are extraordinarily high. I think they know this. Therefore, their reason for attacking Iran must be existential.
Iran is a much tougher adversary than other countries the US has fought like Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, and Venezuela. Iran is a large technologically advanced country with 90 million people fiercely proud of their independence. Their geography is mountainous and challenging to attack. They have expected an attack from the US and have been preparing for a long time. Many Iranians are willing to die to defend their independence.
The global economy is fragile because the system requires growth to not collapse, limits have slowed growth, the debt we have used to force growth has grown to dangerous levels, and limits to growth are becoming stronger.
In response to being attacked by a much more powerful country, Iran is responding asymmetrically by harming the economies of the US and its allies.
The most significant thing Iran has done so far is to close the Strait of Hormuz through which 20% of global oil produced, and 40% of global oil imported, flows.
Also important, Iran has attacked Qatar forcing it to stop producing 20% of the world’s LNG, and significant quantities of fertilizer and other important materials.
CACTUS explains that a modest persistent degrowth of the economy is sufficient to trigger a cascading collapse of complexity and modernity.
The size of the economy is roughly proportional to oil consumption. Closing the Strait of Hormuz for a period longer than importing countries have oil reserves would roughly reduce global GDP by 20%, which is more than sufficient to trigger an unrecoverable collapse, if Hormuz remains closed long enough.
It’s unlikely anyone accurately knows how long the strait can remain closed without triggering a collapse, however most countries on average have about 90 days of oil in storage, and so 120 days of closure is a reasonable guess.
Note that China is an exception and seems to have anticipated the US attack on Iran by stockpiling about 120 days of oil reserves.
Given that other critical materials like fertilizer, petrochemicals, aluminum, and food to feed middle east countries pass through the strait, and the extreme complexity of global supply chains, and the fragility of our financial bubbles, and the likelihood that some importing countries will not have 90 days of oil and LNG buffers, it is reasonable to assume 120 days is a best case and serious problems will begin before that.
We don’t know for how long Iran wants, or is able, to keep the strait closed. We don’t know if the US can force the strait to reopen, or how long it might take to repair any damage and return to normal operations.
We do know that cumulative damage is being done to the global economy every day the strait remains closed, and the risk of a collapse increases with time.
The US attack on Iran has other significant risks.
Projecting advanced military force a long way from home is expensive and difficult to sustain. Doubly so given recent US support for Ukraine, and the fact the US does not have the industrial capacity it once had.
This means there is a reasonable chance Iran can win simply by surviving and outlasting the US.
A US loss to Iran would be catastrophic for obvious geopolitical reasons. It’s hard to imagine the US would not escalate to nuclear weapons if faced with a loss, and even less hard to imagine if Israel felt its survival was at stake. A nuclear attack on Iran would create a significant risk of nuclear escalation from its allies China and Russia.
Lastly, there are many complex rivalries, hatreds, and interests among middle east countries, and the countries that depend on their oil. Escalation of the Iran war in unpredictable and uncontrollable directions is probable. We can see escalation is already starting.
In summary, by attacking Iran, the US has created extreme risks.
What could be worth these risks?
Certainly not the reasons given by US leaders.
Nor the alternative reasons given by observers.
US Motivation
US power today depends on a strong military, owning the world’s reserve currency, and having access to sufficient energy and materials.
The standard of living for US citizens, and the jobs of most US leaders, depend on sustaining US power.
The industrial capacity of China already far exceeds the US.
The US military is stronger than the Chinese military, however China is using its superior industrial capacity to catch up.
Last month China announced it now intends to compete with the US for “global reserve currency status” and to become a “financial powerhouse”.
To retain its power, the US must defend its reserve currency, and to do so needs the world’s strongest military.
US military strength is dependent on many rare earth minerals, and China controls almost all of them.
Last year China demonstrated its willingness to withhold rare earth minerals exports in retaliation against US tariffs, and is now blocking many exports destined for US military applications.
The US is working to create alternate sources of rare earth minerals, but this is an expensive decade-ish project. Those of us with CACTUS awareness understand this plan for US self-sufficiency may never succeed.
Access to rare earth minerals is therefore an existential issue for the US.
China is the only source of rare earth minerals in the short term and the US needs leverage to force China to provide them.
China is the world’s largest importer of oil at about 12 million barrels a day.
Roughly half of this oil comes from countries the US controls like Saudi Arabia and Iraq. The other half comes from countries the US does not control like Russia and Iran.
The US attempted to get control of Russian oil via the Ukraine war, but that plan failed.
China imports 90% of Iran’s oil, which is about 1.5 million barrels a day, and pays with Chinese Renminbi.
Iran’s oil represents about 13% of China’s oil imports, and while not huge, is strategically important because the US does not control Iran, and because Iran accepts Renminbi as payment, and because China receives a price discount for being Iran’s largest and most reliable customer, and because depletion is making it difficult to find alternate sources of oil.
The reason the US accepted the extreme risks of attacking Iran is now clear.
To retain its military power and reserve currency the US needs leverage to force China to provide it with rare earth minerals, and the US intends to use Iran’s oil as that leverage.
The US aggression has been extreme, including killing 160 young schoolgirls without an apology, suggesting there is an urgency behind the US strategy.
The urgency comes from the dependence of stocks on flows. The US military has a reasonable stock of weapons, but they are being depleted faster than they are being replaced due to the demands of Ukraine, the complexity of US weapons, and the hollowing out of US industrial capacity. In addition, some weapons cannot be replaced until the rare earth minerals problem is solved.
So, the US has decided to go all in with the goal of pounding Iran into quick submission. As stated earlier, this creates a serious risk of nuclear escalation if Iran proves to be tough enough to take the beating and not submit.
Conclusion
Those of us that are overshoot aware and see through the Debt, Energy, Ecology, or CACTUS lenses know that we are facing limits to growth, and big changes are on the horizon.
We know there are much bigger forces in play beneath the surface of the rare earth minerals for oil story.
There are no doubt people in the US government whose job it is to understand the threats of non-renewable energy and mineral depletion, but I expect most US leaders are like 99.9% of all people and aggressively deny these threats exist.
The point is that a coherent story to explain the US attack on Iran does not require overshoot awareness, or even a deep understand of energy.
US leaders are just normal ignorant people in denial trying to do the best they can for their citizens.
The reason US leaders are lying to us about why they attacked Iran is now clear.
US leaders can’t possibly say that if China does not provide rare earth minerals the US military will be weak, and the US will lose reserve currency status, and the standard of living for Americans will fall 50+%, so we have to kill thousands of Iranians, and spend billions of dollars, and risk World War III, and risk collapsing the global economy, to force China to give them to us.
Notice that none of the 6 reasons US leaders have provided for attacking Iran, nor the 6 reasons pundits have provided, that I listed above, are even close to the real reason.
In addition, I follow closely about 20 geopolitical analysts, plus maybe another 20 less closely, all of which I trust have sufficient integrity to at least attempt to accurately report WHAT is going on, however none of these 40 people are even close to accurately explaining WHY the US attacked Iran.
None, not even close! How is this possible?
Notice that all 12 incorrect explanations have one thing in common. They all avoid discussing limits to growth, or non-renewable resource depletion, or scarcity, or bubbles, or living beyond our means.
Anything associated with overshoot is taboo because it is a too unpleasant reality for our brains to accept as explained by the MORT theory.
We are a uniquely smart species capable of understanding many complex topics, unless the topic is really unpleasant.
It’s an amazing phenomenon to observe and is why I started un-Denial.
As a final point I want to repeat a point I made in my last essay.
There is a significant cost to the fact that most leaders do not understand CACTUS. The attack on Iran, even in the best case of the war ending quickly, has done serious damage to the global economy. We are in the end stage of an advanced civilization, and damage does not heal well now. There are too many demands for maintenance and repair, and we don’t have the material wealth to address them all.
Every time we recklessly break something, as the US just did by attacking Iran, we reduce the time to collapse.
A wise species would find a way to spread awareness of CACTUS so that we can extend the time to collapse and use some of our remaining resources to improve the quality of life for the survivors and other species.
Achieving awareness is a challenge because even if CACTUS was explained to our leaders with compelling evidence, most would still deny CACTUS due to the human genetic tendency to deny unpleasant realities as explained by Dr. Ajit Varki’s MORT theory.
I proposed one promising idea for spreading CACTUS awareness in my last essay. Hopefully others reading this will come up with other ideas.
P.S. We now understand why good people like Tulsi Gabbard who campaigned against the war have been silent, and why Trump flip-flopped on war promises.
P.P.S. We now also understand why the US decapitated Venezuela.
In 2025 China imported about 600K barrels per day, representing 80% of Venezuela’s exported oil, in exchange for Renminbi or barter repayment of debt.
After the US kidnapped Venezuela’s president in January 2026, oil exported to China fell to 50K barrels per day or less.
B puts it simply for us. Australia is in deep shite.
https://thehonestsorcerer.substack.com/p/the-new-gulf-war-epic-fubar-goes
Seyed Mohammad Marandi is the only English speaking spokesperson for the Iran government that I know of.
I’ve listened to dozens of interviews with him but this is the clearest I’ve heard him be on Iran’s intentions and what it will take to end the war. I assume because his government’s position has hardened under its new leader that replaced the leader assassinated by the US during negotiations.
Listening to this it is hard to imagine how the Strait of Hormuz will reopen soon.
I listened to some of this one this morning too.
While reading your latest essay just now, the AI discussed the mines. I thought that Marandi said they are not laying mines in the Strait? Am I mistaken or misunderstood him? Also – the No1 essay talked about ships still getting through but going to China – something does not add up?
Yes I also noticed the mine issue. I lean to believing Marandi but your guess is as good as mine, no pun intended.
Either way, reading the latest essay, I am reeling, it can still be a shock for a bit. Some feedback, to make it clearer, it would be good if you included Question and Answer in front of the sentences where you ask AI then it responds, just as it’s a long read and you can get lost in it. I will read it in the morning with fresh eyes, then might have more feedback or questions too.
Edit = ignore my request Rob! it’s just my puny brain trying to make order from chaos – the formatting is fine.
Thanks for the suggestion. I made an edit to make the questions more visible.
I think mining is unlikely as they can’t tell chinese ships from european.
“The Strait of Hormuz is not closed. It is selectively open. And the only country it is open for is China. CNBC confirmed on 11 March, citing TankerTrackers satellite data corroborated by Kpler, that Iran has exported at least 11.7 million barrels of crude oil to China“?
https://x.com/shanaka86/status/2031612131452530742?s=20
Hence, no mines?
Thanks – that means the AI is wrong on that bit then. Rob – maybe ask it follow up question, and provide that link from CNBC
Andaréapié shared a video yesterday in the previous essay. Not gonna say this is a must watch. But I highly recommend to the people who have a problem with the pessimistic philosophers. The presenter does a great job of explaining Zapffe’s existential elk theory.
And because of our extensive knowledge here at un-Denial (the ultimate sublimation😊) with fire, cooking, ext theory of mind, mort, cactus, etc… this Zapffe stuff is very easy to connect dots and fully comprehend.
I was impressed enough to check out some of her other videos. She has some good content but I’m not sure yet if she’s worth following. I’m sensing a lack of knowledge with limits to growth & overshoot. And there seems to be maybe an agenda… like if we could eliminate religion, humanity would be better off. I don’t know. Like I said, she’s brand new for me.
Brief summary for those not inclined to watch:
Key Details of the Theory:
So are we here at Un-Denial praticing Distraction or Sublimation??
Def not the first two at least.
I’de say a little bit of both 😉
I’d say no to distraction.
We are distracting ourselves from the crushing reality that there is no meaning in the universe by obsessing/focusing/learning more and more about the crushing reality that there is no meaning in the universe.
Doesn’t work for me.
Depletion or free will?
The (Chinese?) AI explains the desperate shenanigans going on behind the curtain to prevent the Iran war from crashing the global economy.
Much of what they’ve done will make the eventual reckoning worse, and all paths lead to money printing, so protect yourself with gold and silver.
https://no01.substack.com/p/strait-to-brrrrrrr
Silver will probably get smashed because it is primarily an industrial metal. Gold is monetary that doesn’t mean it won’t go down but it has a floor compared to silver.
The AI argues silver has a floor because supply was just reduced by stopping Sulphur from Hormuz.
P.S. I wasn’t arguing in favor of gold and silver, just summarizing the AI’s message. I personally think there will be little to buy regardless how much money or gold you have.
Doesn’t silver have a floor because it’s also used as an industrial metal? Or is the demand from industry not big enough to keep the price propped up?
I think nikoB is saying an economic depression will kill demand for silver because there will be fewer things made that require it.
There will also be wholesale bank collapses. Every bank and the money that people think they have will be vapourised. It’s an inevitable outcome because our banking system requires growth and when there is no growth it collapses. When this happens people’s faith in money will be destroyed. People will put their savings into real things (like precious metals). Of course most people won’t have any savings to invest. Eventually all humans will live in a stone age economy and the concept of money will not exist.
that’s right Rob. I have got rid of mine. Good call? Who knows?
This is a fascinating discussion by two intelligent, open minded, high integrity, well-connected, brave people that are trying to find an explanation for the insanity we are all observing.
Dr. Bret Weinstein is a lifetime democrat who voted for and helped to elect Trump because he felt democrats had abandoned democracy, and because Trump opposed the neocons and was against a war with Iran.
Weinstein is now deeply angry at Trump, and given that Trump just made a colossal political blunder, and given good political instincts are the one skill Trump excels at, he concludes that some evil non-democratic force controls the US government and has forced Trump to do something he did not want to do.
Both Weinstein and Carlson believe that force is Jewish money and the CIA. They believe the US has not been a true democracy since the CIA killed JFK for opposing the military industrial complex and Israel’s nuclear weapons program.
Weinstein thinks the path out of this mess would be for someone powerful to step up and publicly explain what just happened, and he encourages Trump to be that person to salvage his legacy.
To recap, they believe an evil force with bad intentions controls the US government.
Now look through the CACTUS lens.
What if the CIA understands some of the overshoot story? Probably not the CACTUS and positive sum game pieces, but certainly the depletion and zero sum game pieces.
What if US fracked oil is expected to deplete faster than they have disclosed?
What if Saudi Arabia et. al. are very close to a terminal decline in extraction?
What if they know the financial system is about to break due to low growth and high debt, and that oil will be required to rebuild from a crash.
What if the CIA told Trump he has to get control of all remaining oil to preserve some of the non-negotiable American way of life?
What if the CIA does not understand the lessons Hideaway has taught us about complexity, scale, and growth? None of the best and most famous overshoot intellectuals understand CACTUS. Why would we expect the CIA to have better minds with more defective denial genes?
Then it all makes sense and none of the players are evil, they are just scared, ignorant, and in denial.
Isn’t Iran simply the place where debt meets reality?
I do not understand. US debt needs Iran’s oil to avoid reality.
How so? Wasn’t it sold to China before the war?
I think it’s actually very simple. From the standpoint of the owners of the US empire, aren’t there only three outcomes?
Best case scenario: get Iran oil, consolation prize: nobody gets Iran oil, worst: China gets Iran oil.
This is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scorched_earth, spite.
This is a story of greed, a quest for eternal growth of possessions, and the inability to let go by some of the most avid people on Earth.
These are extreme individuals. Can you imagine what it takes to be at the top of the pyramid? The depth of their wound/blindness or the profoundly evil choice they made at some point to follow that path.
Forgot to say, BRICS leaders are not ready to share either (or at least the American owners have good reasons to think so). So Iran oil can not help the US debt, unless it’s US controlled.
At least, this all means, US and China are not on the same side. It seems to me, this changed during covid (at the start, they were probably in the same boat, at least on the surface).
We have been in WWIII since covid and this is the final chapter. A front between South and North Korea was nearly avoided (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_South_Korean_martial_law_crisis). Gaza was in preparation of Iran. Or so I feel.
Somehow, Chinese analysts have decided they can outlive the collapse of the US economy and were in the process of choking it. What choice did the US have when it started to understand? Submit? This is the move of a cornered frightened animal. They are playing their last card in the deck, military might. Thus accelerating their collapse.
US/Europe/Australia collapse will give some breathing air to the BRICS. And South Korea/Japan may decide to join the BRICS club.
I’m not following your arguments. Please slow down and construct a coherent story.
– What evidence is there that BRICS does not want to share? I see they want peace and to compete on business.
– US by attacking Iran has blocked all middle east oil, thus hurting everyone including themselves.
– US initiated the tariff war with China which caused the withholding of rare earth minerals.
– Why did war star with covid?
– What does the the South Korean martial law have to do with any of this?
These are all only my intuitions if you connect the dots and try to see the big picture. We are in WWIII, except it started as a 5th and 4th generation warfare, so we didn’t notice.
I am just disclosing all the ideas I have had on my mind for some time, before shutting down. Make of it what you will.
I think what is going to change after the war ends, is the distribution of power inside society. This whole story is about the dispersion of concentrated power. From the main empire to the secondary empires. From the leadership within each empire to the people and other living beings.
The end of growth is an epic liberation moment.
And I also now know why I wrote this in the post with Chris: “I believe material collapse will happen in synchronicity of a mass regulatory psychological event.” The pressure on people’s mind, the propaganda, the traumas maintained on purpose will stop. All this uses a tremendous amount of energy, just to maintain control. Since 98% of the population in the west is addicted, mostly to screens, imagine the change once everybody gets off the hook at the same time.
Our leaders are both evil and forces beyond their will are driving the bus. Both are true. We tend to think in binary opposition: either this or that. But it’s multi-layered and can be both.
Sorry, if I sound incoherent. And sorry to answer like that. I don’t want to spend time on this. It would take forever to research every connection I have in my mind. I don’t need to, anymore. I have my answers and I am just off-loading. I wanted to share in case it’s interesting for you or anyone else. But maybe it’s just rubbish.
Reality can’t be described in words.
Thanks for clarifying. I agree with your point that WWIII has started, but see no evidence for some of your other points. Sounds like you want to end the discussion so let’s leave it at that.
Thank you 🙂
Don’t hesitate to show me wrong.
Good luck withstanding the incoming shock wave. But, you are probably one of the best prepared and far from the epicenter.
Just wanted to say that I am not necessarily on the BRICS empires side. Just that their economies may be able to run on lower intensity material flows, and they might be more willing to cooperate, hence extending the run.
Also, the collapse of the West is salutary for the people in the West.
Sidenote, do you know about the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacquard_machine? It’s incredible what they were able to do in 1804 already. This portrait needed 24000 punch cards
. I wonder how long it took to program these punch cards.
What is lost in energy intensity, we will have to replace by time and space.
I remember reading about the Jacquard machine. I think it was our first digital computer.
Rob,
Preston MPP Howard here with a special treat:
Eliot Jacobson, PhD, has a complimentary call-out to Ajit Varki’s book on his BlueSky today:
“As for reality denial, the time has come to fully recognize this peculiar, paradoxical, and potent quirk of the human mind and acknowledge its downsides…”
He recommends folk track down a copy of Dr Vakri’s book. (Some get it, if even by small degree.)
Thanks, given how important MORT is for anyone trying to understand our world it’s amazing how little it is discussed.
MORT unfortunately predicts this, so if MORT is true, it will never be acknowledged by the majority.
LOL, un-Denial can’t catch a break. I wonder what it is? Rob and his no nonsense straight to the point approach? Me and my scary Wrangham/Ligotti stuff? Hideaway and his intimidating intelligence?
Eliot knows about this site. I’ve left him a couple links. I doubt he knows of Varki on his own. Maybe.
Recommending Varki’s book is a step in the right direction for sure. But it’s a mistake. Varki is hard to read. No need to go there when un-Denial exists. Just like that existential elk video I posted earlier… Rob has already done the legwork to make Varki’s ideas much more accessible.
Thanks for the kind words.
This site is for some strange reason kryptonite to almost everyone that claims to be trying to understand our predicament.
Did you notice that we had a few drive-by criticisms when CACTUS was first explained but no one stayed long enough to explain why it is wrong or why it is not a new idea?
Have you noticed that no one has mentioned the core CACTUS ideas elsewhere?
Have you noticed that no one actually engages with Hideaway on the substance of his message on other sites?
Have you noticed that I am the ONLY person to offer a concrete idea for extending modernity? Every other idea proposed elsewhere won’t help or will make things worse.
Have you noticed that no one has offered a better explanation for the human uniqueness explained by MORT?
Have you noticed that every person that has stayed long enough to argue against MORT did not even understand what Varki said? That includes the deceased godfather of overshoot truth-seeking, Jay Hanson.
It’s very strange.
Good essay today by Art Berman.
https://www.artberman.com/blog/the-iran-war-a-world-changing-event/
The good news is this crisis might force China and US to read my essay on CACTUS and cooperate to delay collapse now that they understand we operate in a positive sum game. 🙄
“Remember when the narrative was that it was Russia totally reliant on Western-supplied parts in its weaponry? Here an American general literally admits the entire U.S. military structure would collapse in a day if China issued an embargo against them:”?
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13551371/China-military-supplies-war.html
Good AI chuckle.
This one’s not AI but still hilarious.
Canadian Prepper connected an interesting dot in his video today.
Trump today started talking about the existence of Iranian sleeper cells in the US.
They might be setting us up for a false flag to justify US boots on the ground, or nuking Iran.
All kinds of crazy could be justified – boots, nukes, Insurrection Act, martial law, election interference…
I started watching this podcast of Nate’s where the guest, Christine Webb, mentions that Baboons show some evidence of a theory of mind. What does this mean for MORT?
Many animals have theory of mind.
You need to evolve denial of mortality for an extended theory of mind and it’s only happened once on this planet.
Thanks for the Clarification, I got confused for a minute.
LOL. I have those moments too Stellar. Hard to remember all this bullshit.
I once thought I was onto something important about full consciousness because of some human burial pit from 500kya. Rob quickly set me straight by saying something like “dead bodies smell bad and it’s not that crazy to believe that we would be disposing of them back then. Have to look for burials where wealth and religious objects are buried too.”
And don’t waste your time with that Christine video. She’ll steer you wrong I promise. I called her out a few months ago for being such an idiot.
https://un-denial.com/2025/11/09/ai-on-collapse/comment-page-2/#comment-114992
ps. I saw a reply from JDoe on that comment. Where are you dude? I miss your ice-cold analysis.
I confirmed this summary of Iran’s announcement today is accurate and I added some info to the quotes.
https://no01.substack.com/p/march-11-no-ceasefire-no-tankers
Gas here increased from $1.879/L to $1.929/L in the last 5 days.
ours has gone from $1.81/L to $2.59/L in six days
How are you guys feeling? Worried? Calm and collected?
A bit stressed as there is not much to gauge the true picture through the fog. We are stocking up on things we need to complete projects here on the farm. Liquidating some assets to turn them into real assets on the farm. Fingers crossed that this doesn’t get worse at a very fast rate. Most people I know aren’t too worried since they know nothing about oil.
We’ve been doing the same stocking up on some bulk food items and turning $ into materials / resources. We have also committed to some solar gear to setup 2 small systems on a couple of our buildings. Also stocked up on a bit of fuel for the chainsaw. Felling trees and cutting firewood entirely by hand is something I’d like to put off as long as possible 😀.
Preptip:
Learn to do it by hand now, as it’s a learning curve and you will have much to learn about efficiency and saving wear on the tools, and yourself!,
Hint: saws are as important as axes, and you will need both in different sizes.
I use three sizes and two types of saw – cross-cut and pruning – and have two main axe types for cutting , – a big Italian Trento axe and a very handy Swedish large trekking axe.
Also a good heavy splitter: the women can learn to use that in an energy-efficient manner, it’s their traditional task in Europe actually.
You will also have to change the way you use the firewood, in accordance with the principle of absolute minimal use to sustain life, NOT to feel comfortable all the time.
And learn the heat-power in very small pieces of wood used for cooking and hand-warming fires.
You will also have to learn how to cut wood by hand minimising the risk of repetitive strain injury, which is very significant if you are cutting a lot.
Many modern axes have handles which are too thick, increase vibration and injure the hand and wrist. Some good videos on YT about thinning handles.
Also, get long and short-handled ‘sapies’ for moving wood with less risk of back-strain.
As we say in the Basque country:’Aupa,mutil!’
Click to access pdf77712508dpi72.pdf
Excellent points. Keeping cross cut saws sharp is no small task. It becomes the proverbial misery whip if not maintained.
This manual is essential if anyone is serious about doing firewood by hand. Build the vice and get the tools now if you are planning to use wood.
OMG,
I have an old champion tooth bucking saw on the wall of my garage (and contemplated using it once). Here in the PNW (U.S.) lumber areas the rural people use them for outside decorations now. If you review the pdf you put up you will realize that we are not going back technologically to the past. There were people who specialized in sharpening these saws and that knowledge (and especially the specialized tools) are only in books now. We will drop back to hunter gatherers with small iron axes, if lucky.
AJ
Sure, humans will eventually be hunter gatherers, but the salvage economy will last a couple centuries, I’d say.
As far as tools and skills, they are still out there. I bought my tools, built the saw vise, and sharpened my saw a couple times so far. It takes practice and patience, but in the near future, no mesmerizing screens and winter coming will serve to focus attention on learning the skill.
I have found that the new for purchase saws are not as good as the old originals. Wouldn’t be surprised if we’ll see a time when those saws serving as quaint decorations will be seen with a new eye.
BTW- I don’t comment much lately, but still stop by. The amount of crazy shit going on, the firehose of media to sift through can be overwhelming, so as fascinating as it is to watch this one time planetary unraveling occur, I can only take in so much.
As many sites as I monitor, Cactus and Mort still give the best big picture framing of what we are seeing unfold. (That and maximum power principle).
So it goes.
Manual won’t open for me. Can you share a downloaded copy? Also yesterday I broke my big bench mounted engineers vice. Not good timing 😁
Works for me. Try right click save as. If you still can’t get it let me know and I will email it.
I tried to do so, but I’m on a new computer (my Mac of 12 years finally died, and I’m still learning this one).
I’ll keep trying.
https://www.fs.usda.gov › t-d › pubs › pdfpubs › pdf77712508 › pdf77712508dpi72.pdf
how about this?
Found it on another link. Not sure why yours wouldn’t work for me. Thanks again.
Thanks. Great tips. I do have most of those things. Learning how to make my own handles and keep them all sharp are areas for improvement.
I remember watching this episode of Gardening Australia where this handsome young bloke sharpens a tooth saw, had a look and found the clip.
He gives a lot of detail, it’s worth a watch, and a long written description below too. We have old bow type tooth saws in our shed and curved pruning saws too, and quite possibly we may even have the tools out there to do this type of work to restore them. The shed we could barely move inside it when we first got here, but now we have gradually cleared it out. We also have several axes in there – oh lordy! I doubt we will ever use them, but you never know.
If you have solar then it might be a decent hedge to get an electric (corded or battery) chainsaw. I have both, just in case one or the other energy supply is unavailable to me.
Worried. With a covid type confidence level that something is coming that we’ve never seen before.
As an added bonus I just learned that we fools’ out here in the desert are about to get a heat wave 30 degrees (F) above average. Way too soon for triple digits. WTF am I still doing here?
I already miss the good old days when my biggest gripe was the new un-denial comment format. LOL!!
Still trying to keep the humor, but it really does feel like the ultimate countdown.
I share Chris’s worry. I expect something unexpected is going to happen. Our leaders are too calm. They are probably planning something to take advantage of this crisis.
I agree, I’m really worried. Have a gut feeling this is going to get really wild. Trump is pretty dumb but I have trouble believing an operation of this size was him acting alone. The “lone dumb-man” theory is a little too convenient for an operation of this scale. Yes, you could say Israel is controlling him, but I’m not sure if that’s even sufficient to explain what’s going on.
The parallels with covid are pretty close, what I’m wondering is why isn’t the rest of the world going nuts right now? you’d think everyone who is dependent on oil from the middle east would be freaking out. Unless, just like covid, they were given the heads up. Maybe I just don’t read enough international news, but I’m not hearing strident protests from the rest of the world like you would expect.
This might be some sort of trigger for a financial reset. At this point the US is in a massive AI bubble and everyone knows it. On top of that the US, and pretty much every other country for that matter, has a huge amount of unpayable debt to service. Destroying the global economy could pave the way for wiping the slate clean somehow, and they’re just using Trump as the fall guy because he’s so transparently obnoxious and stupid.
I used to be a reluctant conspiracy theorist but after Covid and the Epstein files, my first question is always “Cui Bono?”, and if the answer isn’t “rich and powerful people” then I know I’m not on the right track.
I think it is because most people in the world don’t think oil is a big issue, it is a bad issue and we can do without it. Cactus theory about to be tested.
Pretty obvious: for one thing, they can normalise, and make permanent, digital ID and rationing of all kinds using this entirely manufactured crisis as a pretext.
These are established major goals of theirs.
Also, bug food made in factories to make up for low crop yields and food price spikes. Again, a much -advertised goal.
And so on…..
I am worried. I have prepared with hand tools for a long time. Saws, axes, fishing tools, small wooden sailboat etc… .
I do think ordinary people are more grounded in reality than people in politics.
I have discovered that it is easy to make people collapse aware. (Try not to do it).
But if pressed I say that «all» pharmaceuticals are made in China from oil.
Well I’m always a bit worried. Maybe it’s why I found this site in the first place
I’m not that worried, as I’ve known civilization such as we have, has an inevitable use by date. If this is it, C’est la vie, therefore, so long and thanks for all the fish..
Somehow I don’t think it’s all over just yet, perhaps a step down, maybe far worse for some. In this country, assuming the war goes on for another 2 months, then big steps down, but there seems too much calm around politicians, the shops, media, etc.
In Australia, within 2 months, give or take, food will start to become scarce in our cities, but over the next few weeks everything will still appear fine.
Maybe everyone, including myself are just in disbelief (denial??). Maybe no-one wants to believe world leaders are so stupid to end civilization, despite their irrational religious beliefs, but then again so many people have those same irrational beliefs.
I realised a few years ago that we could never be fully prepared for the collapse of civilization, so there is nothing to really worry about, just to live and enjoy life as much as possible while the good times last..
Remember that none of us can see the future, there could be an outbreak of peace, very suddenly, and all the headlines of damage and destruction, might just not be the big step down that the media has been portraying. The spice, sorry oil might start flowing again very quickly.
I keep noting that Kharg Island has NOT been bombed out of existence. Why? Why allow Iran’s main oil export terminal and export earner to remain intact, if you really want to cripple the regime?
Always remember that the next month will eventually be the good old days, as what’s further in the future will be worse, much worse…
I thought that because of the oil and LNG Shut Ins and Force Majuere decalarations, it would take months for oil flow to pick up again, even if the US pulled back tomorrow?
Seems there is damage to refineries more so than export terminals, so if the war ends quickly, oil can get out to other refineries relatively quickly.
If the war and damage gets worse, with at least 3 months of closures then it’s possible we collapse industrial civilization entirely, world wide according to an A.I. I’ve just been discussing the topic with, once all the feedback loops are taken into account..
Hmm thought we had longer myself.
Gemini A.I. states it will take 6 months for total collapse of industrial civilization if the straights are closed for over 3 months, so this year..
Email me your AI conversation and I’ll create a new post.
It’s a bit all over the place, as I was asking it different things at different times.. I’ve been writing up an essay on how A.I. gets to modern civilization collapse after you all the criteria are taken into account, while it can come up with a bright green future if you miss out on all the details..
Planned to finish it next week but life got in the way…
Will see what I can make sense of the current A.I. interaction later tonight tomorrow morning..
That sounds great. I put a new post up with some questions to Gemini inspired by your 6 month comment.
Hideaway, I moved your comment on calm markets to the new post.
Strait of Hormuz status change since March 10?
New movie available to download starting today looks promising.
I have not watched yet.
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1341338/
https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/good_luck_have_fun_dont_die
Love Sam Rockwell. Will watch this tonight.
Awesome – thanks Rob!
I hated this. I’m now 0 for my last 5 with newer movies. The others are Companion, Triangle of Sadness, One Battle After Another, and The Menu. (Triangle at least had me thinking about the film a couple days later, but the rest were absolutely forgettable)
In all of them, the director/writers are trying to convey how horrible society is making us. Which is always a great premise. But there’s almost zero chance of liking a film when I hate every goddamn character (and actor). New movies suck… because we suck.
My go to films for this type of vibe are Idiocracy, The Last Supper, Don’t Look Up, They Live, Falling Down, God Bless America, Heathers, and Pump Up the Volume.
Yep – same here. I enjoyed the opening sequence of the film, and thought this was going somewhere, but it didn’t and it was just annoying as hell. It is usually me saying let’s turn it off, but this time Andrew said to me, this is excruciating, let’s not watch! So we only watched the first half hour, just after the car nearly fell on all of them. The stuff about the school shooting clones was horrible, some things you can’t joke about like that??
One recent movie I have not seen, but it got a 10 stars from Andrew on his site, very rare, so maybe check this one out?. Sentimental Value,
Copying down your go to list.
We didn’t quite make 30 minutes. Was hoping for much better from Rockwell. Will check out some of the recommendations here.
Well that sucks. I’ll delete without watching it.
A 7.3 rating with 10K reviews on IMDB, and 83%/85% on Rotten Tomatoes with enough reviews for it to be confident enough to write AI generated critic and audience summaries, both praising the movie, used to mean the movie would be excellent.
Something’s changed. Integrity of IMDB and Rotten Tomatoes is gone.
Do any of you have a better way to evaluate new movies?
well i live with movie review nerd! on the home page, there is a review of many recent releases, the number of stars is a pretty good way to tell. For me if it’s not 8 stars or above, I would not bother watching it. And sometimes even ones that get an 8 stars, like recent release of Marty Supreme, I still found tedious and turned off. Old films or a good series I prefer. I don’t know about those stats from Rottem Tom. I can’t believe anyone would like that film, if those reviews are for real – says a lot about where popular culture is at, in the toilet.
Your partner wrote a very good review. I’ll check his site in the future.
When you say 8 stars minimum do you mean your site or IMDB?
My guess is the IMDB reviews were not fake and popular culture + intelligence are plummeting.
I meant Andrew’s site for the rating. He does not mind watching them again if I find one that looks decent. And he reckons people can gain the system at IMDB (gave example of the Melania doco that Trumps fans boosted to 100% on IMDB)
It’s a painful chore wading through 10 crap posts by Berman to find one good nugget but I make this sacrifice for the loyal un-Denial audience that appreciates a high signal to noise ratio.
NathanS – also using the 1970s oil shock to drive home the point:
He has written letters to NZ politicians advising they must instigate immediate fuel rationing.
Does anyone know of an Australian equivalent person who is doing this kind of work?
@perran
And some more entertainment for @paqnation presenter says:
Sorry I have no idea. I’m just a man muddling my way through. On a side note I’ve decided it’s time to “shelter in place”. I’m not going anywhere to far from home. Shit could get bad real quick and i have no intention of getting stranded in some place in don’t want to be.
that’s ok. I’m just trying to get clues. I am meant to be going on a 5 night road trip with a hire car, from Melbourne to Tathra in NSW (approx 7 hour drive) to my neice’s destination wedding, and I feel pretty much the same as you, that I just want to shelter in place. Maybe over reacting, but also might be best to go with my gut.
I think so long as you keep enough fuel in the tank to get home you should be right. Take a jerry or two to be sure. I’m in Tassie so I’ve either got to fly or catch the ferry. It leaves you a touch more vulnerable. I don’t think they’re going to close the borders like they did through covid though.
The option of closing borders was given a possible pretext by the brief Nipah Virus scare.
‘Covid’, is I think dead and done a a way of scaring the general public of imbeciles – even they saw through ‘Omicron’.
The ‘pandemic’ option is always there in the background now, to be deployed as and when seems convenient to the Planners.
Did I just read the secret of life? Or is it a bunch of fancy word salad? Author is Pierre Kory. I got the link from Crazy Eddy. Some god talk in the comments… red flag.
I couldn’t give you a proper recap even if my life depended on it. Just sharing it here in case it’s worth a damn.
https://pierrekorymedicalmusings.com/p/final-part-the-circuit-nature-runs
A VERY quick skim suggests this is a woo-woo spin on the (probably true) origin of life story by Dr. Nick Lane that life began with water, rock, CO2, and energy from deep sea vents.
He ends with the mysterious “Asao Shimanishi” who has discovered the secret answer to something very very important…
Google suggests this guy may be selling some mineral water supplement quackery.
https://www.bodyrevitaliser.nl/en/aquarevitaliser/aquarevitaliser-ionized-mineral-extract/the-discoverer-and-inventor-dr-shimanishi-from-jap/
Is it true that Iran is laying mines in the Strait of Hormuz?
No worries, Trump’s on it.
LOL. I think it was Brian Berletic’s last video you posted where he’s saying that Trump was the perfect (almost too good to be true) president for evil empire at this important moment in history. So true.
They could try all sorts of things under the cover of Trump that couldn’t be done under Biden or Harris.
https://www.theguardian.com/news/2026/mar/11/us-iran-strait-of-hormuz-mine-boat-attacks
Nate’s latest wide-boundary analysis of the Iran war.
I didn’t know about the connection between Oil, Sulfates and Copper and Cobalt Mining.
Stellar – there is a very in depth article that was shared on here a few days back, which goes into such connections written by Craig Tindale, who has been recent guest with Nate.
https://substack.com/home/post/p-189923832
Thanks Stellar.
This is one of Nate’s best and a must watch.
He connects many important dots including religion.
Using un-Denial language, the CACTUS fuse has been lit and someone better put it out real soon.
Hegseths tattoo represents:
Matthew 10:34: “I did not come to bring peace, but a sword.”
https://x.com/PrepperCanadian/status/2031535878363865225
Recently I’ve started seeing several articles and comments talking about how China is electrifying their ships and mining equipment, producing solid state batteries and things like that, and how this is proof that peak oil won’t be a problem because China is showing how it’s possible to completely electrify everything. The most recent comment I saw is a reply in a post in Quark substack:
“So what’s the point of electrification? Are you saying they should just give up? In my opinion it’s then more important to accelerate the transition now, while we still have oil…
Also, on the topic of the paradox, we once again turn to china:
China has rolled out massive fleets: For example, a world-first deployment of 100 fully autonomous, all-electric mining trucks (90-ton class, like the “Huaneng Ruichi”) at the Yimin open-pit coal mine in Inner Mongolia, developed by XCMG and operated by Huaneng. These run on battery power (often with photovoltaic charging support), use Al/5G for navigation, and eliminate diesel use in hauling.
China has rolled out massive fleets: For example, a world-first deployment of 100 fully autonomous, all-electric mining trucks (90-ton class, like the “Huaneng Ruichi”) at the Yimin open-pit coal mine in Inner Mongolia, developed by XCMG and operated by Huaneng. These run on battery power (often with photovoltaic charging support), use Al/5G for navigation, and eliminate diesel use in hauling.
Scale is exploding: By end-2025, China had over 4,000 unmanned mining trucks in operation (many electric or hybrid), with projections for 5,000+ by end-2025 and up to 10,000 by 2026. Major players like XCMG, Zoomlion, SANY, and others dominate the top manufacturers.
And for sulfur: Byproduct from non-petroleum smelting/metallurgy (significant and growing):
• Non-ferrous metal smelters (copper, zinc, lead, nickel) capture SO2 from sulfide ore roasting and convert it to H2SO4. This is already a major global source (e.g., ~6-10% in the US per recent data, higher in copper-heavy regions like Chile or Peru).”
To me, this seems very misleading. Usually, when I see articles/comments like this, they always omit a very important detail that makes the solution uneconomical on a large scale or over longer distances. But what do you all think?
Cesar …. “massive fleets” “scale is exploding”…
Hmm.. then there are lies, damm lies and statistics..
So let’s look at some statistics…
How many mining haul trucks are in operation in China?? … Answer around 150,000-170,000..
How many new ones get added every year?? 20,000 to 25,000 The Chinese trucks are not the good solid ones of Caterpillar or Komatsu and are replaced every few years..
How many mining haul trucks are the new battery electric ones in 2025?? 2,000-3,000 of the small ones 60-100 tonne range, 150-300 in the 115-150 tonne range, and in the 240 tonne range fewer than 50..
What are these trucks made from, new virgin steel or recycled steel?? New steel, as the recycled has too many impurities (all the haul trucks electric or diesel).
The small electric haul truck fleets use battery change technology. In real world conditions like the coal mines of Inner Mongolia there are around 1,200 -1,400 battery changes per year.
Even with 2 batteries per truck, so one is charging while the other is used, the life of these batteries is around 4 years, before being replaced. Fast charge heat stress and winter capacity loss shortens the life of the batteries..
Please Cesar, do not fall for all the hypes articles about all the electric stuff. We just do not have all the materials to build out a world fleet. The battery electric trucks of 90 tonne use a total of around 1,400 kg of copper per truck, including the 2 batteries and an apportioned quantity for the recharging.
To haul the equivalent load of the large 300-450 tonne fleet used in the large copper mines of the world, would require double of the copper used in the large diesel electric trucks of equivalent weight.
A mechanical diesel 350 tonne haul truck like the Cat 797F only uses around 800kg of copper, so battery electric trucks of equivalent carrying capacity per 24 hour day of operation would require 4 X 1,400 Kg or 5,600 kg of copper, all that requires mining from ever lower grades of ores…
As they say in the ads, but wait there is more!!
China currently mines around 1.18B tonnes/yr of open cast coal. What are China’s reserves of open cast coal?? Around 7% of all reserves and mainly lignite. This is about 12B tonnes..
That’s 10 years worth at best. So what’s the point of building up all the industries required to turn to battery electric trucks and build scale over the next few years for something that will only be around for a decade in total at best, assuming they don’t try and increase production from these last open pits??
All the underground coal is lifted via either conveyors or by vertical shafts, much more energy intensive methods which rely upon complexity of deep high pressure pumps for dewatering and high grade ventilation.
Small battery electric mining trucks based on complex systems of changing batteries all sounds reasonable until the total picture is looked at, just like every other aspect of our modern civilization..
China’s underground coal mines are increasing in depth by an average of 10-25 metres every year. Around 70% of China’s coal reserves are below 600m deep, while they mine 50% of their coal from above 600m.
It’s the standard human behaviour of taking of the easy and cheapest resources first in both dollar and energy terms. Let the future take care of itself so long as we have all we can use now…
I didn’t realise that China’s coal situation was this bad, until I did the research. It’s the same everywhere I look, the situation is always WORSE after a bit of in depth research. Thanks Cesar for making me look…
Hideaway i don’t know how you do it! It’s a struggle for me to write a few sentences let alone an essay. Day in day out too, and the sad thing is that I’m pretty sure it goes in one ear and out the other with the likes of Brandon!
By the way did you sustain any damage from the fires or those floods over the summer?
Nearest fire was a whole 500 metres away from our place. WE were evacuated a couple of times, well told to and my wife had the panics up so we left overnight to our daughters place for a couple of nights, while my son and I snuck back home (sneaking 100km?) to check irrigation.
Neighbour across the road lost 250 acres of fencing, water troughs etc, but no houses. All the Gellibrand River fires were near us, with some friends losing fences and shedding. Knew of, but didn’t know those that lost houses, around 8 in our area.
At one point we were joking about standing in the living room with fires 10-15km to the West and floods 15-20km to the East, then the fires got a lot closer..
We simply won’t have the resources and ability to rebuild from bushfires in the not too distant future. For many Australians a bushfire burning their house down will mean a lifetime of homelessness. Bushfires will play a pivotal role in collapse in Australia.
One aspect I really noticed was how reliant all the vehicles from trucks to 4W drives to water bombing helicopters are on diesel/kerosine.
Because it was so dry for weeks after the fires started, they would have travelled a hundred plus kilometres without these fossil fuels.
Strait of Hormuz status change since yesterday?
In the second part of this video Prof. Jiang mentioned a “religious lense”, what could be seen as part of the behavior lense.
Saludos
el mar