
This is from a 14-page handwritten apology letter I sent to my childhood best friend about a week prior to finding un-Denial. It had been my new year’s resolution every year for the last 20 years. Michael Dowd inspired me to finally go through with it. I’m only including the end portion because that’s the part that pertains to the doomasphere. It’s my Dowd overshoot journey knowledge up to that point. Hopefully it has some entertainment value for you guys.
Hey Jeff, it’s now 2024. I wrote most of that back in 2018. Haven’t read it in a while. Reminds me how close to the edge I was. And the memory lane bit got me teary eyed again.
I had a near death experience (NDE) couple years ago. It was my heart. And it instantly changed my life. It made me start researching other NDE’s, and then researching death itself, which led to learning a lot about indigenous people as well as human history. Which eventually had me thirsty for knowledge on what it all means, who are we and why are we here, meaning of life, all that fun stuff, which eventually led me to God.
My God is ecology, nature, the environment, the biosphere, Gaia, Mother Earth (or whatever you want to call it). Over 97% (300,000 years) of homo sapien humanity we lived in right relationship to reality. Which means we lived the same way as every other species on this planet. Get food, make shelter, and raise a family. Life centered, eco-centric, and animistic. Sustainable and faithful to the past and future. “We belong to the land” (measuring wealth by how good the soil is doing, and the mountains, rivers, forests, oceans, other species, etc).
It’s only the last 3% (10,000 years) that humans have turned those life centered worldviews into a human supremacy or anthropocentric worldview. Unsustainable and unfaithful to the past and future. “The land belongs to us” (measuring wealth by how good the kings, or individuals or groups of individuals (corporations) are doing, GDP, or how much money is in your bank account). This quote pretty much sums it all up: “Forests precede civilizations, and deserts follow them”
This shift from life centered worldviews to human supremacy worldviews is the fundamental point where it all started to go wrong. It’s very complex and I’m still soaking up knowledge to try and make more sense of it. But here’s an excellent bit I heard on a podcast a while back. The themes of “technology is a trap” and “it only takes one” can really start to be understood:
“Many historians believe the invention of the plow killed animism, which was nearly universal prior to the plow. I can be a hunter and kill a buffalo while still being animistic. I can pray to the spirit of the buffalo, cry when I kill it, take no more buffalo than I need and use it all well, and then say I am eating you and when we die, and get buried, we will become grass that your great grandchildren will eat and we’re part of this great cycle of life. But I cannot breed a buffalo into an ox, yoke it, cut its testicles off, bind its horns, and beat it all day long, and be animistic and still respect the spirit of the buffalo. At that point I have to say its just a dumb fucking animal that is here for us and man’s dominion over earth.”
“Technology that is highly advantageous to use, is obligate. Meaning you dont get to not use it and still make it thru history. Someone else will use the plow. They’ll grow their population because of the massive caloric increase. They will make it thru the famines. If we dont use it, then our tribe will get killed by them and or die in the famine. So even if I dont want to use it, I have to. And If I dont, then I dont make it thru history. The technology then codes a pattern of human behavior – instead of hunting-gathering, now I am beating an animal all day. This codes a pattern of values in the human psyche. Which eventually codes the entire culture.” – Daniel Schmachtenberger
I’ve come to realize the big question of “what is the purpose of life?”. The simplicity of it kind of feels like when you find out how a magician did his magic trick. But in this case, it’s not a letdown. The purpose of life is for life to thrive. Period! Pretty simple. Not some complicated grand scheme or the very human supreme notion of “what’s my purpose here”. And not just humans thriving, but all life thriving. And to accomplish that, it’s all about living in right relationship to reality. And obviously the last 3% of human history has done everything to undo that. When religion shifted from God being mother earth to God being some other worldly figure outside of our biosphere, it was game over. Agriculture and organized religion go hand in hand. So agriculture & its technology are the cause of our shifting worldviews. Organized religion is busy pushing God away from earth and up into the skies, so that humans can more easily continue the self-induced destruction of our planet (that agriculture/technology guarantees). Lately I’ve been reading about how in life centered cultures, religion (if done correctly) is the control mechanism to keep us humans in check. And with human centered cultures, religion is downgraded to a coping mechanism. This makes a lot of sense to me.
I don’t obsess about suicide as much anymore. I’ve slowly started the process of trying to forgive myself for all of the people I hurt. As well as forgiving the people who’ve hurt me. Easier said than done, for sure. But this road to forgiveness started for me while studying human history and realizing how much we humans have lost our way (culture, relationships, values, our stories). We fell off the path and are now just a bunch of confused apes going down this ecocidal capitalist nightmare that started a few thousand years ago. And then ridiculously amped up in the last couple hundred years because of the one-time gift/curse of fossil hydrocarbons, which are god-like because of the energy amounts they produce (compared to the only previous energy sources we had for all of our existence; muscle and firewood).
We never stood a chance. Think about it, while american colonialism was building this new stolen land via slavery (kidnapping and torture) and finishing the genocide of the Indigenous (the only true wisdom left in the world) they were also simultaneously discovering this god-like energy stuff. Discovered, extracted, and depleted in a quick 300-year bender at a time where our species had tons of intelligence and zero wisdom. Holy shit! That is some incredibly bad timing/luck for humanity. To sum it up: Native Americans lived on this land for 35,000 years. Modern man, western man, civilized man (which is all just code for white man) will not even make it 500 years on this same land. (year 1607 being the starting point – first successful settlement by the english)
Because just like every human centered civilization before us, we too are collapsing. The reason is always the same: ecological overshoot of carrying capacity. Except now, because of industrial civilization and globalization, most every living thing (humans, animals, fish, insects, plants, trees, etc) will perish. But as bleak as that may sound, it is definitely a good thing. When Mother Earth finally heals from humanity’s destructive ways, the next batch of life will be able to continue the purpose of life – to thrive. At least until another species comes along with that dangerous combination of high intelligence / low wisdom and discovers fossil energy. But that won’t be possible for hundreds of millions of years. That is how sacred and precious these fossil hydrocarbons are. Between the insane amount of creation time and the colossal amounts of energy they produce, it’s easy to understand why people use the word “god-like” when describing them.
And when you look at what humans do with this sacred stuff, it’s very easy to teeter between the extremes of sobbing uncontrollably and laughing hysterically. Worldwide, we use over 100 million barrels of oil every single day to keep this evil, phony, materialistic, human supremacy machine called civilization, running. Destroying mother earth and her children every step of the way. One of my favorite quotes that encapsulates this is:
‘Humanity today is like a waking dreamer, caught between the fantasies of sleep and the chaos of the real world. The mind seeks but cannot find the precise place and hour. We have created a Star Wars civilization, with Stone Age emotions, Medieval institutions, and Godlike technology. We thrash about. We are terribly confused by the mere fact of our existence, and a danger to ourselves and to the rest of life.’ – E.O. Wilson
Sorry to preach so much. I know I sound like some jerk who thinks he has it all figured out. But I doubt I know even one percent of the whole picture. And I certainly do not mean to dismiss other god’s or people’s belief. It’s just that my whole life, I never believed in any type of god or creator. Just thought life was some random chemical accident. But through my human history journey, the farther I go back, the more of a spiritual tone it takes, with no assistance required. And now this is what I truly believe in my heart. And while Mother Earth is our creator, sustainer, and end, I definitely do not believe it ends there. The universe is way too big. And because of my NDE, I know there is something beyond death and I look forward to that journey when the time comes. And I’m sure my notion of God will change after I’m no longer on this planet. My only desire in this life is to be on the side of good more than evil. Which seems to be all about keeping my ego in check. Trying to live with more humility, moderation and connectedness. Its a constant struggle. Internet and technology have done a lot of damage to us. Just trying to be good, one day at a time, one moment at a time.
My journey has also made it very clear as to what is most important in life. Deep meaningful relationships – without a doubt. Which brings me back to why I’m finally reaching out to you. The human growth that would have been flourishing by now with me and you (that I robbed us of) is where the devastation lies. I want to apologize again for harming you and having such a negative impact in your life. And I want you to know that I know what an evil person I was for betraying you and never owning up to it. I so wish I could go back in time and make things right. 20 years best friends and now 20 years of me hiding from you. Goddamn!!! What a tragic waste. I’m so sorry Jeff.
I also want to thank you for being such a good friend to me. You were by far, the best friend I ever had. Nowadays, you still pop up in my dreams, but not nearly as much as you used to. And it’s usually always a positive experience. And I still think about you every single day. I don’t think that will ever change. If I never see or hear from you again in this lifetime, then I pray we meet up again and can be friends in the next voyage. I wish nothing but the best for you and your family. Take care. And I promise I will not contact you again.
Love always,
Chris
Ok, what the hell did we just read? Well, first of all, the fact that I thought it was a good idea to bombard a normie with all that collapse knowledge is freaking hilarious. He’s a family guy with young teen kids so I’m sure I didn’t do him any favors.
I was such a Dowd clone. And no doubt Michael gave me a great education about overshoot/collapse. But because of teachers like him, Daniel Quinn, Charles Eisenstein, etc, (and of course the NDE), I was wrong about everything regarding humans (and life). Being that incorrect is also why I was carrying that colossal amount of guilt for what humanity has done. But that’s where you stay when you’re knee deep in the noble savage myth. That extremely tragic story where if a couple of things had worked out differently, we’d still be living sustainably like the wise native americans. Being stuck in that place can be dangerous. Like Michael Ruppert type dangerous.
It’s true that a strong case can be made that I was a kinder, better person then. But it revolves around a con job where the motivation stems from getting that ticket to the good place when you die. Plus, it goes back to the simple yet accurate idea of the less you know, the better chance you have of being a happy clueless moron.
Like I said earlier, I found un-Denial a few days after mailing the letter and that’s when my journey really kicked into hyperdrive. If I were to send that letter today it might look a little different LOL. Understanding that the sixth mass extinction has absolutely nothing to do with humans, culture, or falling off the path… and everything to do with how the Blob is programmed to operate, there’s a sense of clarity there (kinda like when I found this site and I started to understand why nobody, not even the geniuses, can understand this simple concept called overshoot).
And yes, of course I know that my nihilistic/absurdist outlook is dangerous also. The lack of meaning/purpose, the darkness, the void, has been the demise of many, I’m sure. But I can speak from experience, it’s a lighter shade of dangerous than the noble savage myth. Much easier to cope with the pointlessness of it all, than the relentless shame, regret, and guilt of it all.
I’m still far from Zen Master status. I have a major weakness with my anger. And my interest level (for anything) disappears for days sometimes. But my main complaint is that the removal of all hopium (especially the fun stuff like alien galactic wars, much more advanced modernity than ours) has me at an awareness level that makes the whole thing feel like I was sentenced, living in detention.
I’ve been talking in my sleep
I’ve been waking in my dreams
I’ve been living in the past
My good old faith is dead
P.S. In case you’re curious, I never heard back from Jeff. But that’s ok. The weight off my chest was worth it. Thank you Michael Dowd. I miss you!

Dear Chris, Paqnation,
Let me preface my comment with two qualifications. I have had two Margaritas with my wife, besides an enjoyable conversation with her, my filters are somewhat askew. Consequently,….well,fuck it. …..and I am slowly working my way through the Ligotti essay you recommended.
The Ligotti essay has crystallized conclusions I would have been very slow and reluctant to embrace. But I find myself embracing them, and him, nonetheless.
Suddenly, I find all the cherished narratives of human beings laughably spurious and puerile and I am abandoned well outside all the comforting fantasies we have told ourselves to justify our unrelenting savagery. Fuck. I’ve had two fairly strong margaritas. So stilted.
Shit, man. I had a fundamental shift in perspective I must have been ripe to have. Ready to have. I still have the dopamine drip. I love life.If you shove my head under water, I will still struggle to breath with my entire being and rise out of the water and rip your throat out in a melange of rage and terror.
Then I saw this YouTube video. No Nonsense Spirituality, Britt Hartley. Talking about Peter Wessel Zapffe, who is mentioned in the Ligotti essay. Synchronicity. When the student is ready….blah blah blah.
It is only the strength of our cherished fantasy narratives keeping us, and global industrial civilization alive right now, and I feel, this whole construct is durable as long as we are successful in NOT peering too long into the images of shredded little girls in an Iranian primary school.
I will, out of consideration for my dear wife, my sons, and friends, greet the flash of thermonuclear detonations at Los Alamos Labs, Monzano Base, And Kirtland/Sandia Airforce Base, and Holloman Airforce Base, with the greatest joy…..because it will signify the end of global industrial civilization and possibly all of this mendacious, blood drenched species, human-unkind.
Don’t know what keyed in exactly. I known about Overshoot for years. I was ripe for it. I was pretty deeply invested in the whole primitive human, rewilding, ancestral skills thing. Actual practices were demoralizingly difficult. I enjoy them. But the calorie expenditure will drive you into the ground. It doesn’t work.
For all that, I thank you. One of my biggest fears is that this bullshit would go on forever. So funny. Suddenly I am outside. I am free. I am going to resume my sitting meditation. Not because of some bullshit elevation of consciousness, or the fantasy of a spurious enlightenment, but because, sometimes, I am blissfully empty.
I wish I knew you better and could have a couple shots of Espolón Añejo with you and shoot the shit. Anyway, weirdly enough, I am truly grateful.
thanks.
Caminante no hay camino.
Hi Andaréapié. Good to hear from you again my friend. Thank you for that post. It was very touching. Margaritas are always a good truth serum. LOL
I forgot you live in New Mexico. I live in Phoenix. You and I are the only doomers I know stupid enough to be living in the desert even though we know damn well that the upcoming water/energy shortages will hit us first. Born and raised here, I cannot get myself to leave homebase.
And I’m right there with you about greeting that sudden thermonuclear flash with the greatest joy. I’m 25 miles away from the biggest nuclear power plant in the US. And the only one in the entire southwest. No way that Palo Verde isn’t gonna be a target.
If I remember correctly, don’t you and your son sometimes sleep under the stars near your home? I actually did that a couple nights ago. Fell asleep on a blanket in my backyard while stargazing and in deep thought. It was wonderful.
Ya, I sometimes wonder if I hadn’t been overshoot aware would I have still fallen so hard for Ligotti? I doubt it. My obsession to bring fire into “our story” is what allowed me to be able to shed a bunch of denial which then paved the way for Ligotti to enter my life.
Wish I knew you better too. I’m more of a marijuana guy, but I’d definitely have a couple shots of tequila with you.
ps. Thanks for that elk video, I’ll check it out. Btw, I’m a huge fan of Martin Butler. You might enjoy his videos. He’s well read on all of the old pessimistic authors. And he’s got a really funny, dry sense of humor. Has a couple youtube channels, but this is the one that’s most current:
Corporeal Fantasy by Martin Butler – YouTube
And this video will give you a good idea of what he’s about:
I loved reading this exchange between you both.
You sound like you have found that zen state of peace and joy – good luck to you and thanks for sharing all that you did. I am glad it will be coming to an end too, but like you, if someone held a pillow over my head or head underwater, I would fight for this ‘dear life’ too.
I came to undenial with some previous exposure to Ligotti and Zapffe via another author who wrote about them, and it was pretty amazing to have that connection with a fellow overshoot aware doomer buddy to be able to talk about that.
Your sense of freedom is contagious 😊
Here is a quote and a picture from Robert Saltzman, (the guy who introduced me to Ligotti) who lives in Todos Santos and takes lots of amazing black and white photos of people in the area.
And another quote from his book too that I like…
Thank you for the kind reply. The essay by Ligotti is still reverberating through me. I would also read it for the simple pleasure of his writing on its own. But the stark simplicity of the message illuminated my own stumbling progress toward understanding the inevitability of outcome, determined simply by the laws of thermodynamics.
Ligotti just sucked the life out so many of the old religious, social, ideological, and traditionally cherished narratives, it stunned me…..and then, that feeling of freedom!
if I hadn’t already determined, in my own stumbling journey, the outcome for our way of life, I might have felt grief. But I did not. Maybe just a smidge of embarrassment for not having the courage to arrive at what now seems kind of shockingly obvious.
Anyway, thanks so much. Ya’ll are lights shining on a dark road.
Lawrence Wilkerson:
I think this is serious. Really serious. No urea. I went to order 6 tonne of fert and I can’t get it. And this isn’t in the news yet
Well that was quick. Impact fertiliser in Tassie is no longer selling urea.
This article is popping up everywhere in my doomscrolling.
U.S. Troops Were Told Iran War Is for “Armageddon,” Return of Jesus
Christian fundamentalists are the scariest people on earth. This shit was oozing at Charlie Kirk’s funeral.
I needed a quick AI reminder of my Eurotrash ancestry:
After Columbus’s initial 1492 voyage, European nations sent hundreds of shipping expeditions to the New World during the 15th and 16th centuries, marking the “Age of Discovery”. While a single exact number is difficult to determine because many voyages were private or undocumented, the era saw an explosion of maritime activity led by Spain, Portugal, England, and France.
The purposes of these expeditions are often summarized by historians as the “Three Gs”: God, Gold, and Glory
1. God (Religious Motives)
Exploration was heavily driven by the desire to expand the reach of Christianity and counter the influence of other religions, particularly Islam.
2. Gold (Economic Motives)
Wealth was often the most powerful and immediate incentive for exploration.
3. Glory (Political and Personal Motives)
This “G” represents the quest for power, prestige, and recognition on both a national and individual level.
Manifest Destiny was a 19th-century belief that the United States was divinely ordained to expand its dominion across the entire North American continent.
The ideology combined religious fervor with a sense of cultural and racial superiority to justify rapid territorial growth from the Atlantic to the Pacific Ocean.
Historians generally identify three basic tenets that drove this philosophy:
Ugghh. Same old shit. Like when those yokels tried to burn River Tam at the stake because she’s psychic.
(and one of my favorite Firefly moments at the end)
God botherers will be the death of us! I have reached my limit for reading / listening anything, so will be just tuning in here for companionship and any big breaking news that I trust our fearless leader will break.
You have discovered that power at your fingertips that is AI, but it will be gone soon enough – so learn all the things 🙂
Speaking of God botherers, we watched The Mission the other night, I cried and cried, religion and colonialism are evil. (there’s that word) but now I am listening to the magnificent soundtrack while i preserve and cook up the summer harvest. Goosebumps listening to the music and tears too. these are our global hospice days, love them while we can. ps – much better sleep last night!
My devout catholic friend asked me to use my downloading skills to find The Mission for him. After reading the synopsis I decided I would never watch it. To my friend I asked, why did the missionaries think it was ok to persuade someone from a different culture to abandon their own religion? He didn’t have an answer and I suspect thought I was weird for questioning the superiority of Christianity.
Yes, that’s the amazing part about this film, is the big baddies are portrayed as the Colonizers who come in and destroy the missions, but really it was the Missioners themselves that tempted these tribal people away from the forest, that were the real ‘evil’ ones. It’s truly tragic, as they thought they were saving them, and Jeremy Irons who plays the Jesuit priest who dies with ‘his people’ is meant to be the hero of it all. I understand why you would not want to watch it. One thing I picked up on this second viewing was, that at one point someone says ‘these people are worse than animals they kill their own children’ and the Jeremy Irons charachter defends them, saying that each adult can only have one child, so they can always run away with the child, if there is a third child, they have to kill it or abort, as they know they can’t survive with more. So he understood that, and how they were overshoot aware within their culture, but not what he did.
It’s pretty easy to not respect most people.
was it mostly religious people in science that have brought us the most horrendous levels of destruction.
Really just comes back to bad monkey.
I’m pretty much stuck on the logic that “it aint a white thing, it’s a blob thing”… but LOL, it’s easy for me to swing back and forth.
And just to clarify, humans were gonna cause the sixth mass extinction no matter what… but I have major doubt that it would have been this destructive if non-whites had been in charge.
so much of science and philosophy has come from the arab world. The chinese basically invented nearly everything that whites take credit for. Monkey Bad no matter the colour.We are the ultimate self terminating species.
Is there a fundamentalist Christianity movement emerging in the US military?
Anybody got any suggestions on how to secure a lifetimes supply of carbamazepine? I have know idea how long it lasts if it’s still sealed in its packet but at some point it will become unobtainable and i have a son that’s going to need it for life
sorry no. goodluck, i had to look up what it is for.
I asked Gemini for best gray market sources of carbamazepine and got useful information that suggests it is risky. Have you tried a sincere conversation with your doctor explaining CACTUS and asking him for “extra” prescriptions so you can buy and stock for future? The drug has no recreational value and so apparently is not common in the gray market, but this might also be a reason for your doctor to bend the rules.
Try to stock has much as you can. But there is a problem. There is global shortages of carbamazepin tablets. Carbamazepin is a stable chemical, but Tegretol tablets dont handle moisture well. Moisture will make bioavailabity less. DRY storage.
I think the world economy must be in a terrible economic state. How is it that there is a major war in the Middle East and oil is only $74 a barrel? I bet it’s because consumption has collapsed. We just haven’t noticed yet because it’s occurring in countries we don’t pay attention to. My two cents anyway
Good point.
It feels like there’s a lot going on we don’t see.
I’ll bet most countries are on the edge of a depression.
I’ll bet the big oil producers are all on the edge of big declines.
The collateral economic damage the US is risking is huge, plus the political damage Trump will experience is huge. THEY MUST BE DESPERATE.
And what’s really going on with China purging 100 generals?
Solid growth is expected for the military industrial complex.
Expected duration of the war doubled from 4 weeks to 8 weeks in 2 days.
Chris Martenson’s Daily Digests are a great one stop shop for a quick update on world events.
https://peakprosperity.com/daily-digest/
except for having to watch Martenson. I find him unbearable now.
I’m the same. Why is that I wonder? I don’t even listen or read anything of his anymore
he just has this air of being the font of all knowledge about him. He has for years.
He’s Jekyll & Hyde for me.
Has zero integrity when pushing messages intended to sell subscriptions.
Can be good at times when truth is the only agenda.
It seems like an american trait, trying to make money out of the reality of our situation.
Martenson use to be good before he set up his subscription website, back in the original Crash Course days. Now I keep wondering what he’s trying to sell, every time I listen to him.
There is no real money to make in a future collapse of civilization. Realistically for me, Martenson should be using his farm to generate an income while preparing for whatever he’s preparing for.
However farming is hard consistent work, whereas playing farmer while selling subscriptions is much easier.
yeah thats how it feels. Talk about preparing but not actually doing the farm work yourself. And got to keep the new young wife happy. Good luck to him anyway, I’m sure he is a decent person.
How times have changed.
In World War I we had The Allied Powers versus The Central Powers.
In World War II we had The Allies versus The Axis.
In World War III we have The Epstein Coalition versus The Resistance.
Revelations coming true?
To think that I gave up religion.
Iran War, Oil Prices, and Canada Implications
https://www.arcenergyinstitute.com/iran-war-oil-prices-and-canada-implications/
This week on the podcast, Peter and Jackie are joined by Josef Schachter, President and Founder of Schachter Energy Research Services Inc. They discuss the recent events, oil prices, available spare production capacity, and inventories, and what these developments could mean for the Canadian oil and gas industry.
I think it was an interesting discussion. They all agreed that OPEC spare capacity is lower than forecasted and that the market is in denial.
Qatar LNG status?