
Many facts, insights, causes, outcomes, solutions, and evolved behaviors associated with human overshoot have been discussed by many people over many years.
It’s rare for a new idea to emerge in the overshoot space.
Hideaway’s CACTUS theory has some important fresh insights not previously discussed about the biophysical forces that collaborate to create brief blips of modernity in the universe.
Not every idea in CACTUS is new. But CACTUS identifies and integrates all of the important overshoot forces into a coherent unified theory that explains what’s going on better than anything I’ve seen in 20 years of study.
Inside the integrated whole of CACTUS is an important relationship I’ve not seen previously discussed that explains modernity’s dependence on growth of civilization scale for growth of resource use efficiency, and growth of resource extraction technology complexity, which creates self-reinforcing feedback loops, and vulnerabilities, that accelerate both the growth and decline of modernity.
CACTUS shows that the requirement for growth is independent of the type of economic system, or monetary system, or states thereof.
CACTUS shows that overshoot collapse can be triggered by depletion of any of many non-renewable resources, not just the master resource diesel.
CACTUS shows that steady-state and degrowth “solutions”, or any other form of “sustainable” modernity, are impossible, and therefore surviving humans will return to their hunter gatherer origins.
CACTUS shows that a gentle decline is impossible and that modernity will end rapidly.
CACTUS provides a clear prescription on what needs to be done to extend modernity as long as possible, assuming that is your goal.
CACTUS explains what not to do if the goal is to avoid triggering a premature collapse. Our leaders do not understand (or deny) CACTUS, and therefore they are making decisions that will end modernity sooner than was necessary. Citizens also do not understand (or deny) CACTUS, and therefore they are permitting their leaders to get away with the dumbfuckery.
CACTUS shows that broad awareness of overshoot and CACTUS is a good thing if you want to avoid war and violence as growth slows, and you want to avoid triggering a premature collapse.
CACTUS shows that modernity will be rare and brief when it emerges in the universe, and that modernity will never regrow on this planet, and therefore CACTUS provides deep reasons for gratitude and temperance.
These are BIG important ideas.
Elements of CACTUS have been discussed by others elsewhere, but the integrated totality of CACTUS ideas are not in wide circulation, and given their profound implications, deserve widespread debate and discussion.
Yet, what do we observe?
Silence.
Every famous overshoot intellectual, and the sites that focus on overshoot issues, are silent on CACTUS.
How is this possible? Seriously.
If I had learned about CACTUS from say Gail Tverberg, or Tim Morgan, or Tim Watkins, or Nate Hagens, or Alice Friedemann, or Chris Martenson, or Jack Alpert, or B, or Jean-Marc Jancovici, or Quark, or Simon Michaux, or David Korowicz, or Tom Murphy, or Tim Garrett, or Sam Mitchell, or Bill Rees, or Sid Smith, or Dennis Meadows, or William Catton, or Jay Hanson, or Paul Chefurka, or Richard Heinberg, or Charlie Hall, or Joseph Tainter, or James, or Jason Bradford, or xraymike79, etc., etc., instead of stumbling on Hideaway’s CACTUS theory in posts he made at the Peak Oil Barrel site that others, including the site owner, were ignoring or aggressively denying, I would have still discussed CACTUS hundreds of times, because the idea is so important to understanding our reality.
Why is the little un-Denial community the only site discussing CACTUS?
Ditto on the Mind Over Reality Transition (MORT) theory.
After I stumbled on Dr. Ajit Varki’s MORT theory in a 2013 CBC radio interview, I talked about nothing else for 10 years because it was such an important new idea for making sense of the existence and strange behaviors of a uniquely intelligent species, and for people, like myself, trying to find a path to reducing harms from overshoot.
For anyone trying to bring awareness and positive change to any unpleasant issue, including people still trying to find a solution for overshoot, or any of its symptoms like climate change, pollution, species extinction, ecosystem destruction, etc., etc., MORT is the MOST IMPORTANT IDEA they need to understand.
MORT explains why 99.9% of people aggressively deny everything that is unpleasant, including issues that are obvious without an advanced education, and including when denial of the issue will make things even more unpleasant.
MORT explains why famous polymaths who can and do understand many complex issues, are incapable of understand relatively simple overshoot issues, even when spoon-fed the facts.
MORT explains why only one species has evolved an extended theory of mind, despite obviously powerful fitness advantages.
MORT explains why only one species has gods.
MORT explains why behaviorally modern humans rapidly emerged from one small tribe to extinct all close cousins, and to dominate all other species.
These are BIG important ideas.
And yet all of the overshoot experts, including people who have devoted their lives to finding solutions to overshoot or its symptoms, all of whom have failed due to the genetic denial explained by MORT, have been silent on MORT for over 10 years.
Why, for example, don’t the thousands of climate scientists that have totally failed to make a difference, want to to understand why they failed? Why do climate scientists that have a sound understanding of physics still push “solutions” that are physically impossible?
How is this possible? Seriously.
If the reason everyone is silent on MORT and CACTUS is because they think the theories are wrong, then why hasn’t a single expert explained why they are wrong? Or proposed more compelling theories to explain what we observe?
No discussion. No criticism. No debate. Not even acknowledgement that the MORT and CACTUS theories exist.
Just silence.
I believe most of my overshoot colleagues have good intentions, and good integrity, and good intelligence, and so the only explanation I can think of is that ALL of the overshoot experts have normal denial genes, and un-Denial is the only place on the planet that the tiny number of mutants with defective denial genes congregate.
Is this possible?
It seems very improbable, but what other explanation is there?
The United States of America.
Steve Bull’s new essay is a good one. His timeline for collapse/extinction is a bit too long IMO but that’s ok.
https://stevebull-4168.medium.com/todays-contemplation-collapse-cometh-ccxliv-we-re-saved-the-finale-all-aboard-the-salvation-bus-989415201fe6
Let’s make it easy on everyone and just call it Life (or the blob).
I’m gonna get that awful “w” word out of the doomasphere eventually. Thankfully Steve only mentioned it once. And it seems like he sees it closer to the way I see it than most of the people who use the word.
Obviously it ain’t gonna happen, but what exactly does it look like if humanity could ever handle such conversations? I think it would look like this Rust Chole quote, “the honorable thing for our species to do is to deny our programming. Stop reproducing. Walk hand in hand into extinction. One last midnight, brothers and sisters opting out of a raw deal.”
Oh, I like that paragraph. And it kinda sounds like someone who hates the blob as much as I do.😂
Wait. I’m a little confused. Especially after he just said, “we did not choose more, more, more. It chose us”.
Modern humans are not the fools, Life is.
How can I watch for free the UFC fight at the White House this weekend?
Did the Roman empire charge it’s citizens to watch gladiator fights?
Who will be sitting next to President Trump at the White House UFC fight?
You can’t make this shit up.
We may soon have the world’s first trillionaire and he made his fortune selling a dream of colonizing other planets that citizens who were not brain damaged by mRNA transfections would instantly know has a 0% probability of success.
In the early days of covid, people with defective denial genes speculated that the covid virus was engineered to cut consumption of non-renewable resources, and to enable tools like digital currencies that will be necessary to manage a collapse of modernity.
Now it appears the covid virus was actually engineered to cause brain damage in billions of people so that a little more growth can be squeezed out of a depleted planet.
I was right. Brain damage.
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/liftoff-spacex-gray-market-trading-signals-35-ipo-pop
Nate Hagens interview on the implications of the Hormuz closure.
It’s bad news but Hagens released it to motivate an awakening towards regenerative lifestyles.
I work at a small organic farm and there’s nothing regenerative about what I do.
I do however see MORT and zero understanding of CACTUS everywhere I look.
An irritating interview start to finish.
He’s a smooth talking wannabe intellectual who understands nothing that is important.
B today does the math on global oil flows and speculates that the global economy is so fragile that the Iran war will cause a collapse in oil demand because no one can afford higher priced oil.
He concludes that the world will break up into a collection of isolated bunker states and that growth is over.
B does not understand CACTUS because he does not discuss the implications of the end of growth, nor the implications of a breakdown in our complex networked 6 continent supply chain that enables modernity.
https://thehonestsorcerer.substack.com/p/what-if-oil-prices-never-hit-150
This was a comment from over there. It feels right to me. What do you think? And I know CACTUS says it aint gonna work, but I don’t think TPTB understand CACTUS.
If there’s a plan that doesn’t involve US deception followed by escalation that’s probably it.
It’s hard these days to detect rational thinking when there’s so much emotional monkey noise.
Skip this if you’re having a nice day.
Radagast is a young man in Europe struggling with depression, who drifts in and out sanity, probably has defective denial genes, and is deeply aware of the climate change dimension of our overshoot predicament.
Yesterday he took a big dose of anti-depressants and wrote a terrifying essay on the near term implications of climate change.
I don’t believe he has any awareness of CACTUS, so reality will be worse than the horrors he describes.
https://www.rintrah.nl/nobody-is-prepared-for-whats-going-to-happen/
“Look at the chart of the interglacials. Note that at the Peaks of heating, it goes suddenly up and then back down. I think that is methane in play with Global Heating. It suddenly goes up as high as 17 C GAST and then comes crashing back down once the methane flow decreases.
The Interglacials are run away heating events that are started by the Milankovitch Cycles, but those cycles do not run the gauntlet with them..
What causes the sudden cooling? My speculation is that it is a massive increase in cloud cover caused by water vapor condensing up near the stratosphere. We are presently up 10 % in Water Vapor in the sky if we say we are at 1.5 C GAST rise. If we go up from 15 C present (approximately) to 16 C, we will go up another 7% in water vapor and if we go up to 17 C our total increase in water vapor will be 24%.
I am convinced that it would be idiotic not to believe that a 24% increase in Water Vapor would not cause significant increased cloud cover. If so, we could have that sudden rapid cooling that the interglacials always show us. Something causes that cooling, and I believe it is cloud cover. Remember Global Heating is approximately 0.2% of the escaping heat from the Earth being returned by the Greenhouse Gases. If we were to block out 2 percent of the sunlight with increased cloud cover the Earth would cool quickly as the interglacial charts show.”?
Things we take for granted in the West like democracy, the rule of law, and human rights won’t survive what’s coming.
https://collapsemusings.substack.com/p/you-think-the-holocaust-was-bad-just
One underappreciated challenge of collapse will be maintaining your humanity in extremely difficult times.
Inflation much higher than 10% is in the pipeline and will appear in 6-12 months.
And this is BEFORE the energy inflation effects of the Iran war are accounted for.
https://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=255553
Got that clip from Jan Bloxham.
https://substack.com/@gnug315/note/c-274382878
I always like these videos that talk about how seeing the truth comes with a cost. And I especially like this one because for one thing, he’s a smoker.😊And also cuz I can feel his torment and pain.
But I don’t react the same way I used to. Instead of nodding my head in approval and being glad that someone else out there gets it… all I want to know is where the speaker is at with his awareness level so that I can fill him in on the rest of the bad news.
ps. I also found a new term I like from Jan’s blog. Brandolini’s law
I used to love smoking.
I should add a couple cartons to my preps for the CACTUS party.
I’d smoke in my sleep if I could.
Yes, good idea. You’ll definitely want some cigs for the end.
Expect the CIA via its branch office Israel to blow up whatever might have been agreed.
The US deep state, being CACTUS blind, thinks the US must control Iran oil to be last man standing.
Record winter temperatures in Antarctic raise fears over speed of climate breakdown
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2026/jun/10/record-winter-temperatures-in-antarctic-raise-fears-over-speed-of-climate-breakdown
103 days after US started the Iran war we have clarity on the US objective.
His decisiveness is truly the most decisive in the history of decisiveness..
We’re living in a Monty Python skit.
And US citizens are permitting their leaders to get away with it.
It’s unbelievable.
It must be something big and widespread like mRNA brain damage.
Like fish swimming in water that can’t see the water, if you’re brain damaged you won’t notice that everyone else is also brain damaged.
I see it because I did not transfect myself.
Just a reminder that there is sound science to expect brain damage from mRNA. It is a novel inadequately tested technology that causes cells in all areas of the body, not just the injection site as claimed, including the brain, to produce non-self proteins in an uncontrolled quantity, for an uncontrolled duration, which triggers the immune system to attack and kill those cells, thus causing damage to normal function, like rational thinking. This is particularly bad in organs like the heart and brain that do not readily repair themselves.
Life goes on: «Apocalyptic bird nest»
Made of drone fiber-optic cable.
https://www.tomshardware.com/networking/ukraines-birds-adapt-to-battlefield-environment-weaving-optical-fiber-nests-for-warmth-canny-feathered-friends-repurpose-scraps-of-this-spun-off-insulator-material
Just another data point showing that collapse is here, just unevenly distributed.
This is what happens when you shift your emphasis from real economy to financial services. The U.S. is not there yet, but trending that way.
Anyone here from England have a take on this article? Sounds pretty bad.
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/2026/07/uk-productivity-economy-reform-party/687303/?gift=9H3sMUPBlAyax6Zg1zB4IzdgOAk2gSzCywKpna9w2xU
Thanks. The UK will probably be an early casualty of CACTUS. I’d have some sympathy if UK stopped meddling in other countries. I find it breathtaking that Ukraine, a country that is not in the EU or NATO, on the opposite side of a continent, as corrupt as they come, and run by Nazis, is the top priority of the UK. UK leaders could have done much to help their own citizens by making a genuine friendship with Russia, but it’s too late now.
I heard a throw-away comment by someone yesterday, maybe it was Mearsheimer. The industrial revolution made it possible for countries to be wealthy without having an empire to extract resources from. From this we can infer that post-collapse of modernity, empires will be desirable again.
I am guessing that Ukraine is a top priority for the UK because they believe that Russia won’t stop at Ukraine and will go on to attack EU or NATO members such as Finland, Poland or the Baltic states.
Speaking of the UK, did anyone else hear about the violence in Northern Ireland?
Why would Russia, the largest country in the world with the most resources, want to take over countries that have no resources, and citizens that hate Russians that will resist an occupation forever? It would be all pain and no gain.
Russia simply wants to prevent neighboring countries from having missiles pointed at it.
US behaved the same when Russia put missiles in Cuba.
Young brits wont fight even if the Russians waltz through Europe.
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According to a major UK Youth Poll by the University of Glasgow’s John Smith Centre, this stark reluctance is driven by the severe cost of living crisis, a housing shortage, and deep dissatisfaction with the political system.»
😉
Why does the UK government care what happens in Europe?
UK citizens voted to leave the EU. End of story.
Banks in the UK have made large loans to Ukraine. If Ukraine collapses those banks won’t get their money back
I guess the bankers forgot to read a little history before making the loans. Russia crushed Germany which was far more powerful than Ukraine.
Very nice recap of the US genocide crimes.
What is preventing the US from increasing the production rate of weapons like missiles and missile defense systems?
What about rare earth minerals?
Despite both being CACTUS blind this discussion between Carlson and Mearsheimer about how the US has lost its way is very good.
I agree.
I blame brain damage from mRNA transfections. China and Russia did not use mRNA. It’s too big of a coincidence to ignore.
What’s your theory?
I don’t know. All of my family on both sides got transfected. We we’re the only outliers. None of them seem brain damaged. I put it down to scarcity. It does funny things to people’s mindset
Yes, scarcity is another possible explanation, although I’m skeptical because scarcity is still just a feint breeze.
I notice small things that most people probably miss, like Ziploc discontinuing their excellent line of durable reusable plastic food containers because, according to AI, of the rising cost of plastic raw materials and shipping. Good thing I bought a lifetime supply before they were discontinued.
Maybe I’m mistaking normal MORT genes for brain damage.
I continue to be amazed that the billions of people that turned themselves into GMOs are not curious why cancer and other diseases went up simultaneous with transfecting billions of people.
Two young people in my tiny circle of friends have cancer.
It is easy to predict that mRNA should increase the cancer rate using only first principles and no detailed understanding of oncology, immunology, or virology.
1. There is a finite amount of energy and materials available to operate the immune system.
2. The immune system has many different subsystems for defending against a wide variety of threats.
3. One sub-system focusses on the detection and destruction of defective cells that have the potential to replicate into cancers.
4. If you introduce a strong persistent threat, like for example an mRNA technology that causes cells throughout the body to produce non-self proteins, then the sub-system responsible for dealing with this threat will operate all the time resulting in less energy and materials being available to operate other immune subsystems, like cancer detection and destruction.
Why didn’t “health experts” investigate and report on obvious ideas like this when they observed that the cancer rate increased simultaneous with the transfection of billons of people?
Could the reason they are silent be that they coerced billions of people to transfect themselves with mRNA?
If we assume most “health experts” have good integrity and ethics then this is an improbable answer.
As usual, that leaves MORT as the most likely explanation.
Imagine the unpleasantness of having to admit to yourself that you harmed and killed millions of people, including your own children, by ignoring obvious science.
MORT will be operating in full force.
Oil reserve tanks must be getting near empty.
Trump Warns: “We’ll Bomb the Shit Out of Them” if No Deal
Yep, I was right.
Eliot Jacobson with some good “doom-mongering” today.
Has anyone here geeked out yet to try to figure out how El Nino may affect you? Couple months ago I watched a few Paul Beckwith videos and read some James Hansen stuff. All I could gather was that Phoenix might get more rain towards the end of the year than the last 100 years combined.
https://climatecasino.substack.com/p/the-start-of-doom-to-come
ps. Awesome lyrics here!
I’m the same as I was when I was six years old
And, oh my God, I feel so damn old
I don’t really feel anything
On a plane, I can see the tiny lights below
And, oh my God, they look so alone
Don’t think they really feel anything
Oh my God, I’ve gotta, gotta, gotta, gotta move on
Where do you move when what you’re moving from
Is yourself, is yourself?
The universe works on a math equation
That never even ever really even ends in the end
Infinity spirals out creation
We’re on the tip of its tongue, and it is saying
“Well, we ain’t sure where you stand
You ain’t machines and you ain’t land
And the plants and the animals, they are linked
And the plants and the animals eat each other”
Well, oh my God and oh my cat
I told my Dad what I need
Well, I know what I have and want
But I don’t know what I need
Well, he said, he said, he said, he said
“I’m glad words don’t weigh nothing
Spent my whole life in a sea of pain
I don’t know what’s right, but I do know what ain’t”
El Nino makes it very dry where I live. The winters are colder and the summers are hotter
My brain is incapable of remembering the definition of El Ni-La-whatever.
I’ve read the definition many times and instantly forget it and its opposite.
Why don’t they call it “wet trend” or “dry trend” instead of cryptic nonsense words?
So, no I don’t think about it.
I do expect a general warming trend and much chaos in the weather patterns I grew up with.
If you were Australian you’d probably remember the terms. They have a much bigger impact on our climate than Canada’s. Some of Australia’s worst droughts occur during El Nino years and some of our biggest floods occur during La Nina’s
Did Trump recently say that he would settle the Iran war for half of Iran’s oil?
“Yes. When the ABC interviewer asked if the U.S. would get involved in a massive reconstruction effort—comparing it to a modern-day Marshall Plan—Trump responded:
“Yeah, but we’ll get half their oil.””
Winning!
Thank you American citizens for reaffirming your support for war and genocide by voting for Lindsey Graham in the primary.
As with Israeli citizens, there’s no ambiguity in your beliefs. The world knows where you stand.
As an American citizen, I’d like to apologize to the world on behalf of the Americans who do not support war and genocide.
Thank you Stellar. A few of you are good people.
I remember when Americans were admired and respected worldwide. Now they are despised like Israel.
Preptip:
Building a buffer of food and supplies creates some resiliency to periodic storms, and provides some calming peace of mind when expecting a storm, but also is a great way to save a lot of money, even if the storm never comes.
This is an obvious preptip, however until recently I did not appreciate how important the money saving dimension is.
I made a conscious decision for every item that I regularly consume on how much to keep in stock. Factors I considered included:
I slowly built my buffer over several years and finished it about 6 months ago. Now I’m mostly in maintenance mode replacing what I consume, or tweaking my stock list based on new information I’ve learned, or changes to my diet.
What I’ve noticed now is that almost everything I buy is on sale. With my buffer there is never any rush to buy anything and I can patiently wait for a good sale price.
I’ve also noticed that inflation has returned to many food items which means my buffer represents a significant savings having been purchased at a lower price.
The main store I shop at offers deep discounts on most items about once or twice a year. Because I have a detailed supply spreadsheet that shows how much I have and how much I want, I can patiently wait in an organized manner for the annual deep discount sale on each item.
My spreadsheet also tracks prices I paid in the past so I have excellent awareness of inflation by item and can use this to adjust target levels.
My spreadsheet also tracks the consumption history for each item so I understand the expected duration each item will last and thus can rationally adjust the target level for each item based on world affairs.
That’s pretty cool Rob.
We are slowly working towards very minimal inputs to our dietary needs by growing mostly what we eat. Booze is not being grown at home yet though I am working on it.
Sardines don’t want to grow either no matter how many I plant. Maybe more fish fertilizer?
I’ve still got potatoes, beets from last year’s harvest in the fridge. Think I’m going to have to compost some.
Had the slaughter man come yesterday. The three chest freezers are full
Very nice! I’d prefer to grow protein and fat but don’t have that option right now.
Canadian rock legends Rush have a cool new drummer.
She makes me smile.
Rush was my band in 1976 high school.
King Crimson Music.
Will see them tomorrow in Düsseldorf, Germany!
Beat, stylized in all caps as BEAT, is an American rock supergroup and touring project formed in 2024, featuring former King Crimson members Adrian Belew and Tony Levin alongside guitarist Steve Vai and Tool drummer Danny Carey. The project was assembled to reinterpret and perform material from King Crimson’s albums Discipline (1981), Beat (1982), and Three of a Perfect Pair (1984), which featured Belew and Levin.[1]
Saludus el mar
Danny Carey is a great drummer. Enjoy the concert!
I am not a fan of Rush. Tried but can’t get into Getty’s voice, a bit like Jon Anderson from Yes. But hell can Anika play some wicked drums.
I listen to a lot of geopolitical analysts that try to explain the US objectives for its wars with Iran and Russia.
Many different objectives are proposed and discussed over and over and over.
Interestingly, the true objective is NEVER mentioned: control of oil.
If oil is mentioned it is in the context of US wanting to export more oil to capture market share from Russia and the Middle East.
Q: How is this possible? Seriously.
A: MORT explains this because to acknowledge oil as the US objective you have to accept that scarcity must be imminent, and that leads to an avalanche of unpleasant awareness including wondering why we care about oil if renewables can replace it, and what the end of growth implies.
Mort definitely explains it, as most geopolitical analysts don’t even realise oil depletion is a problem. They just believe the narrative about transitioning, so why would anything be about oil??
It’s the problem of compartmentalisation of important information in our modern world. Analysts that understand one tiny corner or aspect of our civilization without thinking or learning about anything else. They understand the nuances of their particular field and when some commentary is off, but just accept many other areas as gospel, without questioning them.
Even those in the doomsphere, often just believe outside areas, instead of studying them to see if those inputs are real or not, hence we get many with green fantasies, or think degrowth is possible etc.
Canadian Prepper is a classic example. He’s losing his mind lately trying to understand the confusing geopolitics.
He never mentions theft of oil.
Canadian Prepper is certain collapse is coming soon, but it won’t be caused by something that has no fix like resource depletion.
Not having a solution to collapse, doesn’t gain and retain the audience.
Be certain of collapse for X, Y and Z reasons but always have game plan A, B and C up your sleeve to ‘save or prepare’ people (and often something to buy from goods to premium advice).
You can’t be worried about oil while driving around in a huge diesel guzzling 4WD for the audience either, so it must be something else…
Two quotes. One from George Tsakraklides, the other Tom Murphy. Try to match them up:
Why the hell am I still doom scrolling? Do I get my kicks from picking on doomer pussies? Why not go after normies where I can really feel superior? This shit is such a waste of time. And not because of the obvious meaninglessness… but because of the lack of balls, aka the stranglehold that denial has on 99.9% of the overshoot community. (btw, first quote was from Tom today)
Clearly, I was born in the wrong era. Wish I was born couple million years ago so I could’ve experienced the greatness of living in “satisfying political arrangements as free agents in egalitarian bands enjoying great autonomy and freedom from coercion—rooted in distributed competence and resource access”. LOL, jesus christ Tommy!
It’s just me, Mr Zeus, and the moon. Fuck everything else. Haha!! Yeah, I definitely woke up on the wrong side of the bed this morning.
It’s not necessarily about the era! You could have born into the present-day tribe of the Piraha: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pirah%C3%A3_language
They do not have: gods, an afterlife, souls, elaborate burial rites, extended family frameworks, numbers, technological complexity, very little to no mental disorders
They do have: jungle food, a lot of humor, a radical DIY survivalist worldview, the urge to make fun of people who are afraid of spiders and snakes, a habit of turning missionaries that come to convert them into atheists, a tendency to kill people if they try to stop them from buying booze
They are probably one of the most MORT-free groups of homo sapiens alive today, and I often regret I haven’t been born into that tribe. Life would be so much less weird.
Are you sure the Piraha have no believe in life after death (aka gods)?
I remember hearing they may be a tribe without denial genes so I read and reviewed a book about them.
It was another strange example of someone discussing everything except what matters. Fish swimming in water cannot see the water.
https://un-denial.com/2020/07/07/dont-sleep-there-are-snakes-by-daniel-everett/
LOL, you really have covered every known topic on this site. Good review of Everett’s book.
I read the comments of course. Apneaman once again was the highlight for me. This one is about Jay Hanson’s OVERSHOOT LOOP. I have a feeling I would’ve been a big fan of Jay’s.
https://un-denial.com/2020/07/07/dont-sleep-there-are-snakes-by-daniel-everett/#comment-17441
In a different comment he provided this link that I enjoyed:
Humans aren’t designed to be happy – so stop trying
Apneaman even had a mention of fire. A plain vanilla mention, but I’ll still take it. Was from a book review by Tim Radford:
I do not think the Piraha are MORT-free, they definitely have a form of supernatural belief in “nature spirits”, but these spirits don’t seem to have anything to do with souls from an afterlife or what not.
They do bury their dead and throw some belongings into the grave, but the Piraha are hyper-pragmatic and have a mindset of “new is always better than old”, and they probably don’t have any use for worn clothes, bows, arrows and spears that may be left over from anyone deceased. As far as I know, graves are left unmarked and the deceased are forgotten entirely after two or three generations, the remains are reclaimed by the jungle.
If they do believe in any form of afterlife, I am unaware of it. Their entire experience is centered on the “here and now”, if you cannot see it, hear it, touch it, smell it, taste it… then it probably either does not exist or is irrelevant.
But I am not an anthropologist and have never actually lived with them, so I suppose the only way to know for certain is to study anthropology and go spend a few decades with them to verify everything.
There is also the possibility that their burial practice serves as “erasure of memory” – they are grounded in the present, and by removing all personal belongings of the deceased, they ensure that no trace of them remains in the present. As a way to remain focussed on the here and now, and on survival, not dwelling in a past that’s gone and cannot be brought back.
I also have to add that, personally, I don’t think it debunks MORT if we find a single, hyper-isolated, super-tiny tribe with no signs of metaphysical beliefs at all. It would show that you can have eToM without MORT, but the hypothesis would then just shift from “eToM without MORT is physically impossible” to “eToM without MORT is less efficient than eToM with MORT and the MORT lifeform will outcompete any non-MORT species over long enough time-spans” or some-such.
Thanks. I wonder if there is some relationship between diminished MORT and a tendency to live in the moment?
Perhaps a culture that does not worry about the past and future means there is less need for denial to function without depression?
I like this conversation. Keep sharing the crazy thoughts swirling in your head. I can listen to this stuff all day.
The book had a profound impact on me and completely changed how a brought up my kids. The Piraha have a rule: don’t tell another man what to do. Kids included. What’s good for the goose is good for the gander.
If CACTUS doesn’t get us first, I suspect we will see a “Multiple Breadbasket Failure” in the next few decades.
https://theconversation.com/what-happens-when-the-worlds-breadbaskets-start-failing-simultaneously-279052
Click to access Bendell_BeyondFedUp.pdf
Food and water for most humans are totally dependent on functioning high complexity/energy systems.
I think pretty much all CACTUS paths lead to food (and water) as the most important issue.
Attacks on Lebanon continue.
“24:43 well I this was um uh this was designed to kill the peace talks okay this was
24:53 the sabotage him. Trump didn’t want to have to sign. So they they they put together this orchestrated event so he
25:01 can he can tell the Pakistanis and the ch you know you can tell all the other foreign leaders that have been pressuring him on it that hey we tried
25:10 but you know those damn Iranians they attacked us so we had no choice but to attack them. That’s all. I think it’s that simple.”?
Nate Hagens continues to do impressive mindgame gymnastics to avoid saying what will almost certainly happen and what should be done.
Today he paints a future with a wide range of possible outcomes for economic growth, overshoot limits, power/wealth concentration, geopolitical cooperation/conflict, and ecosystem damage.
This despite the trajectory being obvious for anyone with eyes.
I find it disingenuous and another great case study for MORT.
I much prefer the clarity and honesty of CACTUS which says collapse cannot be avoided however with awareness and wisdom (assuming you believe MORT can be overridden, which Hagens and others assume) we can delay collapse, and maybe avoid war which will magnify the suffering, and maybe, just maybe, prepare a softer landing zone.
https://natehagens.substack.com/p/essay-how-to-think-about-the-future-92e
Umair Haque says
The average person does not think our civilization is dying.
The average person doesn’t care if our civilization is dying.
The average person doesn’t know how to think about whether or not our civilization is dying.
THE YEAR OUR CIVILIZATION BEGAN TO DIE (AND NOBODY CARED)
https://umairhaque.org/p/the-year-our-civilization-began-to
Thanks, I skimmed the essay and do not understand what he is trying to say.
What does he mean by collapse? It seems his collapse does not mean energy/materials/complexity contraction.
Why does he believe we are collapsing? I saw no mention of falling non-renewable reserve quality.
Why does he think citizens don’t care or understand? Is it simply denial? Why does he think citizens deny important things?
WHAT HAS CHANGED SINCE YESTERDAY?
https://x.com/TOzgokmen/status/2064109343637692656
I have been scanning youtube discussions for many hours and thinking about the Middle East war situation, and concluded that we have learned some new things:
1) US+Israel attacks caused a regime change in Iran: hardliner IRGC took over & survived everything thrown at them & they are emboldened and attack w/o hesitation or bluffing.
Killing previous leadership looks utterly dumb now. We also know that Iran can survive the hardest aerial bombing by USIsreal and will not run out of missiles.
This reduces significantly the range of options by USIsrael, leaving only ground war or nukes; in effect only ground war as the military option.
2) “Cease fire” is not a stable state and cannot last very long. It can be best described as a state during which IRGC is allowed to rebuild their missile arsenal & Pentagon can shut down oil to China by worrying less about getting hit by drones & missiles.
3) There are at least 4 major stake holders Israel, Lebanon, Iran, US, participating in this wars heavily and about 7 minor stake holders (Qatar, Bahrain, Saudis, Iraq, Kuwait, UAE, Houthis) who also participated in the war, mostly by getting bombed or letting their land/space to be used.
Each of these participants have different needs and requests for this war to end. The permutations are ENDLESS, considering that this is Middle East, where nothing got resolved in the past 110 years.
But so-called “negotiations” are between only US & Iran via Pakistan.
This situation is beyond logic; it is comedy & “peace negotiations” cannot be taken seriously.
CONCLUSION: this war will not end, and SoH will not open any time soon.
PREDICTION: 200$/b oil towards the end of 2026 and 300$/b oil in 2027.
There’s much more going on behind the scenes.
1) US fracked oil is peaking. I’d bet Russian and Middle East oil are also peaking.
2) Russian energy is flowing to China instead of Europe.
3) Governments have high debt loads and inflation and interest rates are rising.
4) BRICS shift from USD to gold and yuan.
5) China has monopoly on rare earth minerals needed by US military.
What is status of US ability to buy rare earth minerals for military applications from China?
Hideaway will probably confirm that the US plan is bullshit since it takes 10+ years to build rare earth refining capability and capacity.
US needs short term control of Iran oil, 90% of which is exported to China for yuan, as leverage for obtaining rare earths.
US needs medium term control of Iran oil to support USD reserve currency.
US needs long term control of Iran oil to cope with US fracking decline.
Was cleaning out my email drafts. Good lord! Be thankful I don’t post everything I write. Some of these are pure trash.
This was the best of the bunch. Wrote it in January. Looks like I was trying to shift some of the hatred of humanity over to the blob.
Here it is, with a note I added at the end:
I like this bit from Martin Butler. https://substack.com/@martinbutler/p-186278861
But something’s off there. This comment from dave at megacancer explains it:
This was a reply I had to an Elon Musk clip from a couple weeks ago and applies to this conversation:
This ‘humans did nothing wrong’ logic looks laughably incorrect at first glance. But you have to drop the Noble Savage Myth and see it all as the Noble Blob Myth. These two quotes help:
The Story of Life: the quest for profit and growth will continue as it has since the first organic cell fissioned. The End. – Megacancer James & paqnation
All life is a slave to the MPP. – Apneaman
It’s hard though. Very easy to designate humans as the bad guy and give Life a free pass. Even my all-time favorite quote in the doomasphere is guilty of some noble blobbing:
We’re incapable and always have been incapable of holding ourselves back. We’re programmed to grow, we’re programmed to consume, and we’re programmed to deny that that’s a problem. We’re basically an invasive species. – Gail Zawacki
End of post.
I still love Gail’s quote, but the one from James is in a league of its own. Might be the greatest sentence ever thought up by the blob. (and remember James, I get half the credit and royalties for adding the beginning and end😊)
AI, why do I like that quote so much?
[1] I stumbled on the following :
So much intelligence and effort, but completely ignores the foundations:
• Resources, specifically hydrocarbons
• Money, specifically issuing it with interest due (a Ponzi)
From :
https://www.lotuseaters.com/about-us
[2] I don’t usually advocate for Canadian Prepper (Nate Polson) videos and I’m not a fan of Micheal Yon, but the following is worth watching :
This was horrible. I only made it halfway so maybe the 2nd half was the part worth watching. But to borrow Cynic’s favorite saying, “it is perfectly obvious that” Yon is completely full of shit.
The only plus was that I’m gonna steal this quote for when I’m describing myself:
Yes, I also found him hard to listen to. Too much name dropping. Also took me more than one attempt to get through it. e.g.
It was when he said he was with Bret Weinstein at the Darién Gap that I thought maybe he is not completely full of shit. I checked and that claim was true.
I’m a sucker for conspiracies so the ‘deliberate global famine’ hooked me. At several points, even Nate appeared to reach his max capacity for wild theories.
This is pretty good if you’re looking for another time-wasting crazy-making rabbit hole to explore.
There’s some really dark stuff going on that even well-researched well-connected minds do not understand.
And guess what? Israel’s involved.
Art Berman does not think we are facing an imminent oil shortage in July as many others like Martenson are claiming.
Key points:
Berman believes the consequences of the Iran war are serious, but it will take longer than July for the problems to emerge.
https://www.artberman.com/blog/hormuz-a-logistics-crisis-not-yet-an-inventory-crisis/
https://www.newsweek.com/lake-mead-lake-powell-face-system-crash-by-2028-scientists-warn-12030877
https://www.colorado.edu/center/gwc/media/818
Speaking of water, I wonder how the War has affected Tehran’s water situation. Even before the war, Tehran was facing a serious water crisis. I can’t imagine the war making it any better.
Hilarious ending. (39:05 – 40:26)
Yeah I hate Trump, but I hate the media way more. She’s scary man! Not sure what ethnicity she used to be, but they scrubbed it all out of her a long time ago. That’s a full-on white woman. And a very useful idiot.
No idea why this lady got under my skin so bad. Might just be the chauvinistic pig in me talking right now. Let the thumbs down parade begin.😂
I guess Trump didn’t expect someone to demand evidence for his claims.
Iran today attacked Israel in retaliation for its attacks on Lebanon.
Trump told Israel not to respond.
Israel ignored Trump and attacked Iran.
Brian Berletic reminds us that Trump is lying because Israel cannot attack Iran without agreement and support from the US.
Love the Houthis. No idea what he’s saying but he always makes me smile.