AI Predicts 78 Days to CACTUS with Hormuz Closed

Hideaway informed us that the Gemini AI he has been training to understand his CACTUS theory predicts it will take only 6 months for modernity to collapse, and this will begin after 90 days of Hormuz being closed.

If the war and damage gets worse, with at least 3 months of closures then it’s possible we collapse industrial civilization entirely, world wide according to an A.I. I’ve just been discussing the topic with, once all the feedback loops are taken into account.

Hmm… thought we had longer myself.

Gemini A.I. states it will take 6 months for total collapse of industrial civilization if the straights are closed for over 3 months, so this year.

In my last post I estimated 120 days as the best case for the start of collapse.

I thought I’d try querying Gemini without spending any effort to teach it CACTUS to see if I get an answer consistent with Hideaway’s research, and it roughly agrees.

Question: How long can the Strait of Hormuz remain closed before it causes a total collapse of industrial civilization?

As of March 12, 2026, the Strait of Hormuz is functionally closed due to the ongoing conflict involving Iran, causing immediate and severe global disruptions. Whether this leads to a “total collapse of industrial civilization” is a matter of duration versus resilience.

Based on current strategic data and the actual conditions on the ground:

1. The Survival Window: 20 to 60 Days

Most industrial nations maintain a “safety buffer” through Strategic Petroleum Reserves (SPRs).

  • The Global Buffer: International Energy Agency (IEA) member states hold roughly 1.8 billion barrels. As of yesterday, the IEA is preparing a release of 300 to 400 million barrels, the largest in history.
  • Duration: At current disruption rates (losing ~20 million barrels per day), these emergency releases can only bridge the gap for 20 to 25 days before reserves reach critically low levels that threaten basic domestic functions (emergency services, food transport).
  • Asian Sensitivity: China and Japan are more vulnerable; while China has 90–120 days of import coverage, its massive industrial output would begin to stutter within 30 days due to the logistical lag of rerouting supplies.

2. The Infrastructure “Pressure Cooker”: 10 to 30 Days

The collapse isn’t just about a lack of oil; it’s about a failure of the systems that process and move it.

  • Storage Saturation: Within the last 48 hours, storage capacity in the Persian Gulf has hit its limit. This has already forced the shut-in of 7 million barrels per day of production. Once a well is “shut-in,” it can take months to safely restart, meaning even if the Strait opened tomorrow, the supply would not immediately return.
  • The Fertilizer/Food Link: The Strait is a primary artery for urea and ammonia (fertilizer inputs). Prices have already jumped 30% this month. If the closure lasts through the current Northern Hemisphere spring planting season (another 4-6 weeks), global crop yields for 2026 will drop significantly, potentially triggering a global food crisis by autumn.

3. Alternative Routes: The 25% Patch

Total collapse is delayed—but not prevented—by bypass pipelines.

  • Saudi Arabia’s East-West Pipeline: Can move 5–7 million barrels per day to the Red Sea.
  • UAE’s Habshan-Fujairah Pipeline: Can move ~1.5 million barrels per day.
  • The Shortfall: Combined, these only cover about 25% of the typical flow. This is enough to keep essential “life-support” systems (utilities and hospitals) running in some regions, but not enough to sustain a global industrial economy.

4. The Turning Point: 3 to 6 Months

If the Strait remains closed beyond 90 days, the “Total Collapse” scenario becomes a mathematical probability:

  • Systemic Fragility: Modern “just-in-time” supply chains cannot absorb 3 months of $150+ oil and 70% reduced maritime traffic.
  • High-Tech Paralyzation: Qatar provides one-third of the world’s helium. This is essential for semiconductor manufacturing and medical imaging (MRIs). Within 3 months, the global tech and medical sectors would face a complete hardware production standstill.
  • Hyper-Inflation: Developing economies (Pakistan, parts of Africa) are already imposing “austerity measures” like 4-day workweeks. Beyond 3 months, these states face sovereign default and internal civil unrest.

Current Status Summary:

The world is currently at Day 12 of a significant disruption. We are entering the “Strategic Buffer” phase where reserves are being used to mask the impact. If the closure is not resolved by mid-April 2026, the shift from “economic crisis” to “industrial breakdown” will likely begin in earnest.

Question: Assuming Hormuz remains closed and collapse begins, how long will it take for modernity to end?

If the closure of the Strait of Hormuz on February 27, 2026, continues without resolution, the transition from “economic crisis” to the “end of modernity” follows a predictable domino effect. Modernity is not just a collection of gadgets; it is a high-velocity, high-energy system. When that velocity stops, the system “dies” in phases.

Based on current logistical models and the ongoing March 2026 crisis:

Phase 1: The “Financial Dark Age” (Week 3 to Week 6)

The end of modernity begins not with a lack of fuel, but with a lack of insurance and trust.

  • Insurance Paralysis: We are already seeing this. By late March, the withdrawal of P&I (Protection and Indemnity) insurance will likely ground nearly all global maritime trade, not just in the Gulf. If a ship can’t be insured, it doesn’t sail.
  • The Just-in-Time Heart Attack: Modern manufacturing operates on “Just-in-Time” (JIT) logistics. Most factories (electronics, automotive, medical devices) carry only 2 to 4 weeks of inventory. By early April, the “Heart Attack” begins: assembly lines in East Asia and Europe will go silent.

Phase 2: The “Grid Fragility” Window (Months 2 to 4)

Modernity is synonymous with stable electricity. Without the 20% of global LNG that passes through the Strait, power grids become “unbalanced.”

  • The Natural Gas Cliff: Japan, South Korea, and parts of Europe rely on Qatari LNG for baseload power. By May 2026, as strategic reserves deplete, these nations will be forced into “Rolling Blackouts.”
  • Cascading Failures: A power grid isn’t just for lights; it runs water pumps, sewage treatment, and the internet. Once a grid suffers “uncontrolled shedding,” the hardware (transformers/substations) can be physically damaged by surges. Without new parts from the now-silent factories, parts of the grid may stay down for years.

Phase 3: The “Fertilizer/Famine” Bridge (6 to 12 Months)

This is where the “end of modernity” becomes permanent for billions. Modernity is fueled by the Haber-Bosch process, which turns natural gas into fertilizer.

  • Agricultural Halt: 18% of global fertilizer exports are currently trapped behind the Strait. If the closure lasts through the 2026 Northern Hemisphere planting and the Southern Hemisphere cycle (August–October), global caloric production will drop by an estimated 30% to 40%.
  • Modernity ends when the supermarket model fails. Once the expectation of affordable, available food vanishes, urban centers—the hubs of modern civilization—become unmanageable. Mass migration from cities to rural areas typically marks the formal end of an industrial era.

The “Point of No Return”: The 12-Month Mark

If the disruption lasts one full year, the complexity of the global system likely cannot be “restarted.”

  • Loss of Specialization: Modernity requires millions of people to do highly specific jobs (coding, chip lithography, satellite maintenance). In a prolonged energy/food collapse, these people must pivot to basic survival (farming, security).
  • The Knowledge Gap: If the internet stays dark for more than a few months and the global transport of specialized parts (like the helium required for high-tech manufacturing) is severed, the “tools to make the tools” are lost.

Question: If US used nuclear weapons to force Iran to unconditionally surrender, how long would it take for normal shipments to resume in the Strait of Hormuz?

While the use of nuclear weapons is a hypothetical escalation, the time required to resume “normal” shipping under an unconditional surrender scenario is governed by physical and logistical constraints that even a total surrender cannot bypass.

If such an event occurred today, normal shipments would likely not resume for 3 to 9 months, depending on the following recovery hurdles:

1. The “Minefield” Problem (30 to 90 Days)

Even if the Iranian government surrenders, the physical threats in the water remain.

  • Seeded Mines: Reports from March 11 indicate Iran has already deployed naval mines. Unconditional surrender does not provide a “map” of every mine; many are “dumb” contact mines or “smart” influence mines that remain active regardless of a peace treaty.
  • The Sweep: Clearing a 21-mile-wide, 100-mile-long chokepoint to a “commercial safety” standard is a slow process. Modern sonar and UUVs (Unmanned Underwater Vehicles) are fast, but commercial tankers will not enter the Strait until the U.K. Maritime Trade Operations (UKMTO) and the U.S. Navy declare it “Safe for Navigation”—a certification that typically takes 1 to 3 months of zero-contact sweeping.

2. The Insurance Lock (2 to 4 Weeks Post-Clearance)

Shipping is an industry of risk management, not just physical movement.

  • “War Risk” Premiums: Currently, most major carriers (Maersk, Hapag-Lloyd) have suspended transits. After a surrender, insurers (like Lloyd’s of London) will require a “cooling off” period to reassess the risk of rogue actors or unexploded ordnance.
  • Crew Safety: Global maritime unions will likely refuse to man ships entering the Gulf until they are certain no “suicide USVs” (unmanned surface vessels) or latent coastal batteries are being operated by holdout factions.

3. The Radiological Buffer (1 to 6 Months)

If nuclear weapons were used in or near the Strait (e.g., to destroy coastal silos or naval bases), a new set of logistical barriers emerges:

  • Atmospheric/Water Contamination: Commercial ships are not radiation-hardened. Any significant fallout over the shipping lanes would lead to a mandatory exclusion zone. Ships would have to wait for “short-lived” isotopes to decay to safe levels for civilian crews.
  • Port Refusal: Even if a tanker successfully navigates the Strait, most global ports (like Singapore, Rotterdam, or Long Beach) have strict Radiation Portal Monitors. If a ship or its hull tests positive for radioactive particulates, it would be denied entry, effectively “killing” that ship’s commercial utility. Scrubbing a VLCC (Very Large Crude Carrier) for radioactive contamination is a massive undertaking that could take weeks per vessel.

4. The “Logistical Restart” Delay (2 to 3 Months)

Modernity cannot be “turned back on” with a switch.

  • Shut-in Production: As of today, Persian Gulf storage is nearly full. Because of the closure, production at many wells has been “shut-in.” Restarting an oil field is not immediate; it requires technical teams, chemical treatments to prevent reservoir damage, and weeks of ramp-up time.
  • Vessel Displacement: The world’s tanker fleet is currently scattered, with dozens of ships “trapped” inside the Gulf and hundreds more diverted around the Cape of Good Hope. It would take 45 to 60 days just to reposition the fleet back into a regular “shuttle” rhythm.

Question: How would China and Russia respond if US attacked Iran with nuclear weapons?

As of March 12, 2026, following the joint US-Israeli strikes that began on February 28, the world is already witnessing a significant shift in the “Axis” of China, Russia, and Iran. While your scenario involving nuclear weapons remains a hypothetical escalation, the current diplomatic and military responses of Beijing and Moscow provide a clear template for how they would likely react.

1. Russia: Tactical Support and Strategic Distraction

Russia’s response to the current conventional war has been described as “vocal but physically restrained.” In the event of a nuclear strike, Russia would likely double down on its current two-pronged strategy:

  • Targeting Intelligence: Russia is currently providing Iran with real-time intelligence on US military positions. A nuclear escalation would likely see Russia providing advanced electronic warfare (EW) support to protect remaining Iranian assets, or even “looking the other way” as it allows its own satellite data to be used for retaliatory strikes.
  • The Ukraine Advantage: Moscow views the current crisis as a vital distraction. By drawing US focus and “no-rules” military assets away from Eastern Europe, Russia gains breathing room. A nuclear strike would effectively “freeze” US diplomacy, allowing Russia to consolidate gains in Ukraine while the West is pariahed globally.
  • The “North-South” Lifeline: Russia is accelerating the International North-South Transport Corridor (INSTC). If the US uses nuclear weapons, Russia would likely use its territory as the primary “sanctions-proof” bridge for Iran to maintain basic survival functions.

2. China: The “Quiet Anchor” and Energy Pivot

China’s response has been “restrained,” prioritizing its own stability over Iranian survival. However, a nuclear strike would force a massive shift:

  • Energy Realignment: China currently imports 45% of its oil through the Strait of Hormuz. A nuclear strike that renders the Strait unusable would force Beijing to immediately pivot to Russia and Central Asia for land-based energy pipelines. This would make China almost entirely dependent on Russia for fuel, a strategic shift that Beijing has historically tried to avoid.
  • “Nuclear Outcast” Diplomacy: China would likely lead a global diplomatic movement to isolate the US financially. Expect a total freeze on US-China trade and a push for a “Global South” currency that bypasses the US dollar, arguing that the US is no longer a “responsible stakeholder” in the global order.
  • Strategic Consolidation: While the US is entangled in the radioactive aftermath in the Middle East, China would likely accelerate its own regional objectives in the South China Sea and Taiwan, betting that the US has no appetite—or resources—for a second major conflict.

3. The “Limits of the Axis”

Despite their “Comprehensive Strategic Partnership” agreements (Russia’s in 2025, China’s 25-year pact), both powers have signaled they will not enter a direct hot war with the US to save Iran.

  • No Mutual Defense: Current treaties with Iran do not contain mutual defense clauses like those with North Korea.
  • Economic Self-Interest: China is currently suffering from deflation and rising oil prices (Brent crude hit $107 this week). A nuclear-driven collapse of modernity would hurt China’s manufacturing heartland more than it would hurt the US, leading Beijing to act as a “stabilizer” rather than a combatant.

Question: Assuming China continues to block exports of rare earth minerals for US military use, how long before US military is significantly degraded?

As of March 12, 2026, the US military is facing its most critical supply chain vulnerability in decades. China’s decision to block rare earth exports for “military end-use” is not a theoretical threat; it is a functional blockade of the materials required to build and maintain modern weaponry.

The “degradation clock” for the US military is much shorter than many realize, primarily due to the “Just-in-Time” nature of modern defense procurement.

1. The Survival Window: 60 Days

Recent reports from the South China Morning Post (March 10, 2026) and industry analysts indicate that the US military currently holds approximately 60 days of rare earth supplies for active defense production.

  • Immediate Risk: If China maintains a total blockade, the US defense industrial base will hit a “production wall” by mid-May 2026.
  • Replenishment Crisis: While the US has stockpiles of some base metals, it has historically lacked a robust strategic reserve of processed rare earth magnets and alloys. Without these, the assembly of new F-35s, Virginia-class submarines, and precision-guided munitions would effectively ground to a halt.

2. The First Systems to Fail

Degradation will not happen all at once; it will target the most sophisticated components first:

  • Precision Munitions (30–60 Days): Systems like the Tomahawk and JDAM (smart bombs) rely on samarium-cobalt magnets for their guidance fin actuators. These are almost exclusively processed in China. As current bin inventories are exhausted, “smart” arsenals will become finite and irreplaceable.
  • Fighter Aircraft (F-35): Each F-35 contains roughly 417 kg (920 lbs) of rare earth materials. Production lines are expected to stutter within 2 to 3 months as specialized magnet deliveries fail.
  • The Drone Gap: This is perhaps the most acute vulnerability. Nearly 100% of the small permanent magnet motors used in military drones are manufactured using Chinese-processed neodymium. Without these, the US “drone revolution” stops.

3. The Domestic “Safety Net” is Still Under Construction

The US is racing to bridge this gap, but the timing is tight:

  • MP Materials (Mountain Pass): While MP Materials is hitting record production levels (nearly 4,000 MT/year run-rate for NdPr), the US still lacks the full-scale metallization and magnet-making capacity to turn that ore into weapon parts.
  • January 1, 2027 Deadline: The Pentagon has mandated a total ban on Chinese-origin rare earths in defense systems starting in 2027. China’s current blockade has essentially moved this deadline up by nine months, catching many contractors before their non-Chinese supply chains (like those being built by REalloys or Lynas) are fully operational.

4. Strategic Implications: “The Kill Switch”

Analysts now refer to China’s grip on processing as a “Kill Switch” over Western defense.

  • Refining vs. Mining: It is a common misconception that the US lacks the minerals; the US has plenty of ore. The bottleneck is the chemical separation and metallization.
  • Leverage in the Iran Conflict: As of this week, Beijing is using this 60-day supply window as leverage. With US strikes on Iran continuing, China knows that Washington cannot sustain a high-intensity, long-term conflict if it cannot replace the missiles it is currently firing.

Summary Timeline of Degradation:

  • Weeks 1–8 (Current Phase): Minimal visible impact; production continues using existing “on-hand” inventory.
  • Month 3 (May 2026): Critical shortages in guidance systems and drone motors; “rationing” of replacement parts for active-duty fleets.
  • Month 6 (August 2026): Significant degradation; assembly lines for top-tier platforms (subs, jets) begin to go “cold.”

Question: What will be the impact if China takes control of Taiwan and its semiconductor factories?

As of March 12, 2026, the global dependence on Taiwan’s semiconductor industry has reached a “critical mass” point. Taiwan currently produces roughly 92% of the world’s most advanced logic chips (5 nm and smaller), including the brand-new 2 nm nodes that entered mass production at TSMC’s Baoshan and Kaohsiung facilities in late 2025.

If China were to take control of Taiwan and its factories (fabs), the impact would trigger the most severe economic and technological contraction in modern history.


1. The “Scorched Earth” and “Self-Destruct” Scenarios

It is a common misconception that China could simply “turn on” the factories and dominate the world.

  • Remote Disablement: TSMC has confirmed contingency plans to remotely disable ASML’s EUV (Extreme Ultraviolet) lithography machines. Without these machines—which China cannot currently build or maintain—the fabs become expensive, inert cleanrooms.
  • The Talent Flight: Semiconductor manufacturing is as much about “know-how” as it is about hardware. In a takeover scenario, thousands of specialized engineers would likely be evacuated or refuse to work, leaving the complex chemical and physical processes unmanaged.
  • Supply Chain Severance: A fab requires a constant stream of specialized gases, chemicals, and spare parts from the US, Japan, and Europe. Control of the building does not equal control of the supply chain; once the flow of global materials stops, production halts within weeks.

2. Global Economic “Depression” ($10 Trillion Loss)

Mainstream financial models as of March 2026 suggest that a full takeover or blockade of Taiwan would erase roughly 10% of global GDP ($10 trillion) in the first year alone.

  • Tech Sector Collapse: Without the constant flow of chips for AI data centers, smartphones (Apple has booked over 50% of 2 nm capacity for 2026), and medical devices, the S&P 500 would likely face a 40% crash.
  • The AI Winter: The global AI boom, which is currently driving the US and Taiwan’s 7.7% GDP growth as of this month, would essentially freeze. Without new H100/H200-equivalent accelerators from TSMC, AI development would hit a “hardware ceiling” that couldn’t be bypassed for years.

3. Geopolitical and Strategic Realignment

  • The End of the “Silicon Shield”: Historically, Taiwan’s importance to the global economy acted as a deterrent (the “Silicon Shield”). If China ignores this risk, it signals a shift where territorial sovereignty is valued more than economic survival.
  • China’s Self-Sufficiency Race: China is currently in the middle of its “15th Five-Year Plan,” which prioritizes “extraordinary measures” for chip self-sufficiency. If they seized Taiwan’s fabs and could somehow make them run, they would leapfrog 10 years of R&D, effectively controlling the “brains” of all modern military and civilian technology.
  • US “Reshoring” vs. Reality: While the US is on track to spend $200 billion on domestic plants through 2030, these facilities (like TSMC Arizona, which just turned its first profit) currently lack the capacity to replace Taiwan. As of today, the US could not sustain its modern military-industrial complex without Taiwan’s output for more than 60 to 90 days.
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March 18, 2026 1:01 am

[…] AI Predicts 78 Days To Cactus With Hormuz Closed […]

david
david
March 14, 2026 4:43 pm

this article is AI enhanced confirmation bias.

david
david
Reply to  Rob Mielcarski
March 14, 2026 5:02 pm

I asked another AI how much world GDP went thru Hormuz in 2025 and it said less than 1%.
then I asked what chance of the collapse of IC if Hormuz closed all of 2026 and it said extremely close to 0%.
you could try it yourself.

david
david
Reply to  Rob Mielcarski
March 14, 2026 5:11 pm

MS Bing, please try Gemini and report back.
by the way, Gemini may be suffering “model collapse” if persistent users keep trying to get it to give fast doomer answers.

david
david
Reply to  Rob Mielcarski
March 14, 2026 5:38 pm

Uneven vulnerability:

Japan, South Korea, much of Europe, and many developing countries are far more exposed than, say, the U.S. or Canada.

“Collapse” might mean famine and state failure in some places while others “only” experience a brutal recession.

there you go, not global at all.

david
david
Reply to  david
March 14, 2026 5:40 pm

but I’m sure you could convince it to say it will be global and soon.

david
david
Reply to  Rob Mielcarski
March 14, 2026 5:45 pm

sorry I won’t do that, that seems to be the problem here, an LLM being convinced by persistent users that IC collapses soon.

david
david
Reply to  Rob Mielcarski
March 14, 2026 5:53 pm

really just to point out the obvious AI enhanced confirmation bias going on here.
good luck getting out of that.

david
david
Reply to  Rob Mielcarski
March 14, 2026 5:47 pm

1% of GDP flowed thru Hormuz, start there and see if you change your mind about anything.

david
david
Reply to  Rob Mielcarski
March 14, 2026 6:03 pm

I know about and agree with that 2nd sentence. Your blind spot is AI enhanced confirmation bias, in my opinion.

HideAway
HideAway
March 13, 2026 5:49 pm

It’s interesting that I’ve recently seen a few comments by people in the doomsphere about sulphur and shortages of it affecting copper and cobalt mining etc.

In other words starting to put together pieces of the complexity picture..

There is no shortage of sulphur…

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The above picture or link or both, I’m not sure how it turns out, is of a pile of sulphur measuring 400 metres X 400 metres and 12-15 metres high at Fort McMurray in Alberta Canada.

It’s basically a waste product from the mining of the oil sands. There are multiples of these pyramids of sulphur..

There is no shortage of sulphur, it’s just in the wrong places. This is where economics fits into the picture of complexity. Sulphur and sulphur products like Sulphuric acid are cheap products and inputs to many processes, like mining, but if they turned all the oil sands sulphur into sulphuric acid and other cheap products, it would be too expensive to move it to where it’s needed, so is uncompetitive..

Now in our brave new world of Iran war and closed shipping out of the gulf, where the products were made cheaply, is suddenly unavailable, the oil sands sulphur is useless. We would have to build the infrastructure to produce all the products in Alberta at Fort McMurray, then transport them a long way overland, then onto ships to overseas markets..

It’s not going to happen. No-one is going to build a large industry to use a product for the world, when it’s possible that the gulf states come online soon, and can once again produce the sulphur products cheaply.

The game plan from politicians everywhere seems to be in self sufficiency, so they seem to have uneconomic plans to duplicate all the buildings, machinery and transport of the sulphur products (and everything else, sulphur being a metaphor for ‘everything’) “locally”.

What we are going to ‘run out of’, is the economic viability of producing complex machinery and distribution in a world of falling energy availability.

We will not ‘run out of’ any commodity, they will all still exist in their natural forms all over the place, mostly in lower grades than made civilization possible.

Where the A.I. seems to have picked up on is a few chains in the link of civilization, and come to the conclusion of an end of industrial civilization, but does it look at 20th order disruptions? No, no-one is looking that deeply, yet in highly complex systems they exist and cannot be left out of a full explanation of how the world actually works..

Robin
Robin
Reply to  HideAway
March 19, 2026 10:50 am

See Craig Tindale’s March 4 blogpost, Systemic Risk: A 12-Order Cascading Analysis of a Zero-Flow Strait of Hormuz Closure. Technically not the 20th order disruption you called for, but 12th order is pretty impressive. In the article, he also details why orders beyond 12 are too chaotic to forecast.

paqnation
March 13, 2026 4:39 pm

Cashed out my 401k on Monday night. The funds hit my bank this morning.

Been wanting to do that ever since I quit my job last January. Mainly to stop participating in the shitshow. Of course it was nice having my money making me money. But I took a decent hit from 3/1 – 3/9. Since I don’t expect the war to end anytime soon, I decided it was time to cash out before it slowly evaporates.

There’s probably no middle ground here. Gonna end up being one of my best decisions, or one of my worst.

The next big decision is if I should take it out of the bank. But I don’t feel comfortable with cash under my mattress. A fire or a burglary… and I’m done. 

Per AI: Since the joint U.S.-Israeli strikes on Iran began on February 28, 2026 (Operation Epic Fury), financial markets have experienced significant volatility, but there is no evidence of a widespread, systemic “panic exit” from bank accounts or retirement funds by the general public. Instead, the reaction has been characterized by professional investors shifting toward “safe-haven” assets and a cautious “wait-and-see” approach by individual savers.

Retirement Advice: Financial analysts at Bankrate and other firms are advising individuals not to panic-sell or withdraw from 401(k)s. They emphasize that while short-term volatility is high, long-term retirement strategies should remain intact.

What a shocker. I wonder under what scenario financial analysts’ advice would ever be, “Hurry up, take it all out!”😂

Hamish
Hamish
Reply to  paqnation
March 13, 2026 6:04 pm

I see this as the right thing to do from several contexts :
• it demonstrates the ability to be decisive / courage of your convictions,
• moving in the right direction : further separation from (totally flawed) conventional wisdom,
• more than likely financially correct – better to be too early than too late,

The Jim Cramer and Suze Orman types are leading everyone down the wrong path. The only issue is : how long before kudos is applicable and if no one is around maybe you will have to self-anoint.

paqnation
Reply to  Hamish
March 13, 2026 7:24 pm

Thanks. I need all the confirmation bias I can get.

I had to ask AI what your last sentence meant.

In this context, the quote suggests that cashing out now is a move that looks “wrong” to the mainstream today but will eventually be seen as the only right move – even if the fallout is so severe that there is no one left to congratulate you for it.

Walter Haugen
Reply to  paqnation
March 14, 2026 8:24 am

Buy silver and gold – physical of course. Many people feel it is safe in a secure vault. I have mine buried. Keep 3-6 months of cash on hand. You can bury that too. PVC plastic tubes with screw tops are handy for both. You could also buy some more land. Small discreet strips that you could sell easily if you need liquidity.

Robin
Robin
Reply to  Walter Haugen
March 19, 2026 10:53 am

To the extent you can handle loss of liquidity, buy rural real estate. Agricultural, prairy, forest, mountain.

Or buy mining or drilling permits or leases. Then lock them up.

AJ
AJ
Reply to  Rob Mielcarski
March 13, 2026 12:36 pm

None of this was new to anyone who has is familiar with CACTUS and is well read in the doom-o-sphere. BUT it is perhaps one of the best connections of all the dots throughout the world of all the countries that will be immediately effected, without being a book long rendition or a 3 hour podcast. Highly reccomended.

AJ

Robin
Robin
Reply to  Rob Mielcarski
March 19, 2026 11:09 am

Or Steven J Newbury for SETE.

AJ
AJ
Reply to  Rob Mielcarski
March 13, 2026 11:33 am

I’ve read almost all the literature that Kunstler has written (lots of SciFi/Apocalypse porn). Sadly he has totally gone off the deep end with Trump and must be suffering from dementia too.

AJ

Stellarwind72
March 13, 2026 9:33 am

https://e360.yale.edu/digest/iran-war-black-rain-water
War Brings Black Rain to a Parched Iran

As U.S. and Israeli forces pummel Iran, oil installations and a desalination plant have come under fire. Experts warn that attacks on key infrastructure threaten the supply of fresh water in a country already coping with a brutal drought.

For the first time since the bombing campaign began, Israel has begun targeting oil infrastructure, hitting several storage sites and a refinery near Tehran this weekend, TIME reported. Fires at bombed oil installations sent huge plumes of smoke over the Iranian capital. As black, acidic rain fell on the city, locals complained of sore throats and burning eyes, and some feared the tainted rain would contaminate the water supply.

Even before the war started, Iran was experiencing serious water issues.

Last edited 27 days ago by Stellarwind72
Stellarwind72
March 13, 2026 7:53 am

I generally take things said by LLMs with a grain of salt because they are known to hallucinate, but everything in here seems plausible.

What a highly motivating article to start my day with. /s

Last edited 27 days ago by Stellarwind72
Shawn
Shawn
March 13, 2026 5:06 am

Thanks Rob. Things are getting serious. Just a few thoughts
 

  • I find A.I. increasingly useful for certain things, but it still sort of tells you what you want to hear even as it provides some insights.   So caution is still warranted when reading the A.I. output for “truthiness” Still, the reports I read and my own A.I. readouts are converging on similar results. Scary.

 

  • Years ago I heard Dr. Dennis Meadows – systems scientist – explain that complex systems under external pressure to change (as in pressure to collapse) will increase the internal pressure/stabilizers to resist that change. Or words to that effect.  I think we are beginning to see almost all of the world’s rational actors will now begin to try and prevent this collapse. I think this will include China and many other nations pressuring Iran, Isreal and the USA to resolve this conflict.  They will have to get results soon….

 

  • But scarily, there are non-rational, theological aspects to this conflict, particularly within Iran, but also Isreal and the USA armed forces leaders.     Internally, Iranian security forces are willing to see anyone against the regime as a non-muslim and therefore an “other” removing any compunction to killing fellow citizens. And the Eschatology of Shia Islam suggest the removal of Isreal is necessary to bring about the re-appearance of the 9th Iman and end of times stuff.  (Or something like that. I have no time for learning that kind of stuff in detail).  So, the Iranian regimen may not act rationally and may be motivated to bring about collapse.   (Game theory assumes rational actors I believe.)

 

  • I cannot really prepare for collapse of industrial civilization and if it does I will be in the boat with everyone else. But even if this conflict is resolved soon, I am now assuming a stock market crash and a break in the western financial system. I have taken some action on that assumption.   I intend to take more steps to prepare for the crisis and the supply chain disruptions.
el mar
el mar
Reply to  Shawn
March 13, 2026 5:32 am

Theological aspects?!

nikoB
nikoB
Reply to  el mar
March 14, 2026 3:43 am

This is AI. Watch the fingers (4 or 5?) and the curtains move but not the flags.

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el mar
el mar
March 13, 2026 3:43 am

ChatGPT created this picture!

Hormus-and-CACTUS
paqnation
March 13, 2026 3:09 am

That damn AI. And Campbell’s NZ nightmare. All I hear is the the BRICS yt channel that got shutdown. And all I can think about it is the movie Threads. LOL. I’m on the edge of my seat here. Get out the popcorn and the xanax. AI is excellent at telling us how fucked we are.

I already knew that global civilization is extremely fragile, but all of this from one little strait… it’s hilarious (and of course terrifying)

Why the hell has humanity been playing along in this ponzi scheme for so long? Simple, the elites. LOL!! And it can’t go any other way. Run this shitshow a billion times, and it’s gonna be the same thing every goddamn time. Life is precious. Haha!! 

If you’re not a fan of blowing up the planet to end the blob forever… I understand, but at the very least you should be cheering for the extinction of this cursed awareness level.

We’ve done the math. As soon as the blob gets to fire, the mass extinction clock starts. Every time, everywhere in the universe.

At least if I’m any other creature, I serve a purpose in the ecosystem. But luckily, I’m too dumb to understand any of it because just like everyone else in the history of life, I don’t cook my food.

I think it’s a universal guarantee that if Nick Lane’s eukaryotic cell shows up, the blob will eventually conquer fire. But it does feel like a sick twisted joke, or one helluva mistake.

Gaia gardener
Gaia gardener
Reply to  Rob Mielcarski
March 13, 2026 10:41 pm

Hello all friends,

Hi there bro. It’s so good to hear you and be on the same page. Yes, underneath all the angst and anxiety, there beats a definite pulse of excitement as we the lucky golden ticket holders who are witnessing live this eschatological fireworks. I guess it’s the same adrenaline rush of someone knowing they are about to die but still have a chance to finish off some important mission as the clock counts down. Who would have thunk it that our existence was so Hollywood, after all?

I renounced my US citizenship the other day at the consulate in Melbourne. So sorry Renaee that I didn’t contact you, it was all a great rush at the end and with the way the world is imploding, I didn’t think you were in the headspace either to try to meet in the city, I flew in and then out after the deed was done. Anyway, it felt triumphant, if quite anticlimatic as everything is crashing and burning now. But still, it was my little conscientious objection statement and now I can die in a bit more peace. Cost $2350 USD, those bastards. I feel sick that the money is going to fund the bombing, it probably paid for one bolt on a missile.

Rob, I thought I would put my post here under your reply as I am beginning to awaken to a whole new perspective of this end of times. It may be the CACTUS zero hour for modern Homo sapiens, the one species that is trying to collapse the biosphere, but it is the moment of liberation for EVERY SINGLE OTHER SPECIES ON THIS PLANET. For the balance of all Life it is a time of rejoicing and I should be doing my happy dance in celebration. It happens that the Messiah of all other living things will turn out to be DJT, the once reality show host and twice US president! (insert laughing until crying) There must be a god to have fated such an ending, the tragicomedy of the universe. Maybe we were all just a reality show for this super consciousness, hope we got good reviews for the acting and cinematography. Too bad we had to destroy so much of the set, especially at the end.

I hope everyone here (commenting or not) knows how much your presence has meant to me (I would still like to think that we’re all connected somehow, even if we don’t directly know each other) and I wish you all the very best for the days going forward. If I could share the allotment of my own remaining days with you, I would, if that would give you more time and energy to fulfill that which you most need and desire. I know it doesn’t work that way, but I just wanted to express my love and gratitude.

It’s a promise that we’ll be here for each other until the end. If and when Rob’s site fails, it is our consciousness that will be our lifeline, just knowing that we have been here together and truly lived.

Namaste and love, all friends.

Renaee
Reply to  Gaia gardener
March 14, 2026 1:17 am

Your words are very comforting and funny Gaia, and I love that you are rejoicing for all the other species that will be glad to see our demise. Even though they don’t know it and are free of the curse of this idea of ‘the future’.

You are correct that i have been pre occupied and busy the last week or so. I am so glad you got to do the deed in time, even if it was a bit anti climatic.

It seems unlikely now that i will make it up to your neck of the woods either. Such mixed feelings about it all, I can’t even tease them apart atm, just knowing that I need to shut off from it all for a bit. I will keep in touch…

Gaia gardener
Gaia gardener
Reply to  Renaee
March 14, 2026 1:56 am

My dear Renaee,

I am thinking so much for you and your family. Your courage and honesty inspire me. Just your thought to come up to visit has channeled your spirit to be a part of this space and I feel great comfort to have your beneficent and gentle presence. I am so happy to know of your own haven, the love and positivity you’ve shared in creating it is so evident from the photos. It also gives me comfort to know that you and your family will draw sustenance for body, mind, and spirit together from the well of love and joy that is heart and home.

Let us look forward to being together here when we can take a breath. And we will connect by voice, too, friend and fellow traveler.

Sweet rest and dreams, when we can let each day go.

Renaee
Reply to  Gaia gardener
March 14, 2026 2:10 am

And now I have the tears flowing – bless you my friend. sweet rest and dreams is what i need.

paqnation
Reply to  Gaia gardener
March 14, 2026 4:15 am

Oh c’mon. Thumb me down all day, but how you gonna dis my sis after that beautiful monologue.

Hi Gaia. Glad to hear about the citizenship. And I like your reality show angle for the super consciousness. I always picture it more like what a two-minute horse race is to us.

I can’t get gushy right now cuz I watched that Pete Hegseth clip Rob posted and it triggered the hell out of me. I don’t think I’ve ever hated a white devil more. He makes Dick Cheney look like a saint.

But just know that I’ve got nothing but love for you. And yes, we’ll all keep in touch here until we can’t anymore. 

Edit: LOL, I guess I can still get gushy, cuz I just tried my go-to song to make me feel sad… And it worked!! Good lord.

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Campbell Sturrock
Campbell Sturrock
March 13, 2026 2:33 am

I don’t use AI at all but asked Gemini Pro the following variation of Robs question.

Assuming Hormuz remains closed and collapse begins, how long will it take for the NZ economy to collapse?

If the Strait of Hormuz closes permanently and global supply chains rupture, the New Zealand economy—which is 100% dependent on imported fuel and heavily reliant on physical exports—would likely face functional collapse within 4 to 8 weeks.

While the government can print money and freeze markets to delay a financial crash, the physical economy (the movement of goods and people) has a hard limit defined by the fuel in the tanks.

1. The Financial Shock (Week 1–2)

Before the fuel runs out, the economy would suffer a massive pricing shock. 

Inflation Spike: Economists project inflation would immediately surge over 4%, with petrol prices potentially hitting $4 to $5 per litre as global oil passes $150/barrel.

Confidence Crash: The NZ Dollar would likely plummet. Since NZ relies on exporting dairy/meat to buy fuel/medicines, the realisation that exports cannot leave the country (due to shipping insurance failures) would cause a run on the currency.

2. The “Diesel Cliff” (Week 3–5)

This is the point of no return. New Zealand holds approximately 21 days of diesel onshore. 

Transport Halt: Once the 21-day buffer is consumed (even if stretched to 5 weeks with extreme rationing), the internal logistics network fails.

Export Stoppage: Dairy tankers cannot collect milk, and livestock trucks cannot reach freezing works. The dairy industry, which generates ~20-25% of NZ’s export revenue, would cease to function. Milk would be dumped on farms, and the revenue stream that sustains the economy would evaporate.

3. The “Supermarket” Crisis (Week 4–6)

Without diesel, the “just-in-time” delivery model for food fails.

Shelves Empty: Supermarkets hold only a few days of stock. Without trucking from distribution centres (e.g., Wiri, Palmerston North), urban centres would see food supplies vanish.

Business Insolvency: With no goods to sell and no fuel to get employees to work, the vast majority of retail and service businesses would become technically insolvent.

4. Total Systemic Failure (Month 2+)

By the second month, the economy changes from a “market economy” to a command economy (martial law). 

Banking Freeze: With businesses failing en masse and mortgages unpaid, the banking system would likely be frozen by the Reserve Bank to prevent a total liquidity drain.

De-Industrialisation: The country would revert to a local agrarian economy. “Wealth” would shift from currency/stocks to physical assets (land, food, fuel, tools).

Summary: The modern NZ economy is a “diesel engine.” If the fuel stops, the engine seizes in about a month.

Nice summary line which I would say 99% of NZers are blind to.

Excuse the formatting. I’m a novice on this new system.

Robin
Robin
March 13, 2026 12:16 am

Shanaka Anslem Perera has two articles on his substack, The Invisible Siege: How Insurance Markets, Not Missiles, Closed the Strait of Hormuz (March 3) and Actuarial Warfare: How Seven Insurance Letters Closed the World’s Most Critical Chokepoint and Why Markets Are Mispricing Duration by 300% that confirm the AI’s assessment about insurance and trust. He asserts that it will take a minimum of 6-18 months to recover actuarial modeling, during which shipping will remain closed, even if hostilities end within 4-8 weeks and technical capacity ramps back up. So if the AI is also right about 90 days til CACTUS, well, there you have it.

According to this video, plans for this invasion have been in the works since W entered Iraq, with contributions from Obama and Biden as well as W, Trump #1 and Trump #2.

My guess is that the timing is probably informed by several factors:

  1. developments in the rivalry with China,
  2. the US demanding unacceptable terms in nuclear negotiations with Iran,
  3. Epstein files and midterms demanding a distraction, and
  4. awareness of impending depletion based scarcity.
Smile
Smile
March 12, 2026 10:40 pm

I wonder if the power that be were well aware for the incoming collapse, and started this war for a specific reason, or if is just ordinary madness. Anyway interesting times to be alive.

Flippr
Flippr
Reply to  Smile
March 13, 2026 12:23 am

Specific reason or ordinary madness?

Good question Smile. Maybe both?

Hideaway
Hideaway
March 12, 2026 10:35 pm

This war has to be over very soon or it’s all over, as in industrial civilization, according to Gemini A.I. once all the feedback loops are taken into account..

I’ve been wondering why markets are so casual about the war, sure they are down a bit, but nothing catastrophic at all.

My basic premise is that if the war and closure of the Straight of Hormuz was to continue for enough time to collapse everything, then what’s the point of selling your stocks or other assets, as the cash will be useless to meaningless anyway, except for in the very short term..

I suspect the world wide bet, is that the war’s over very soon, and stocks/assets will boom in price, so selling is a mistake.

Also notice how gold and silver are basically doing nothing. If civilization’s all over, people will be after food, shelter, clothing warmth, not shiny metals. If the war ends quickly, the spice of life (oil), flows and while we still might have a severe recession, it’s not the end yet..

I asked the A.I. about how long Australia had, as we are totally dependent on diesel to grow and get food to cities, and Australia officially has around 32 days of diesel, which will change drastically next week when a new report comes out.

Already the Govt here has redirected diesel for export to regional areas, while relaxing the laws surrounding the sulphur content of this particular dirty fuel, for Australian consumption.

That’s fuel that was going to Indonesia, Fiji and PNG, now staying in Australia, so they just miss out.

The same thing is starting to happen all over the world, which is part of the cascading failures of feedback loops that no-one wants to look at.

Of course the refinery in Australia (Brisbane) that makes this high sulphur diesel, will cease getting their crude oil very soon anyway, so it wont make much difference, but of course that bit’s not in the media..

Governments everywhere will instruct refineries to make more diesel and jet fuel at the expense of bunker fuel, so shipping and availability of bunker fuel will get much tighter, but it’s OK as mining in Australia will soon start to contract, due to diesel shortage or govt mandates anyway to conserve fuel, for essential or critical needs, so less ships moving anyway.

Of course if Iron ore, lithium, grains, coal, LNG all get great reductions of being shipped out of Australia, then sometime soon the factories in China, South Korea, Japan etc. that rely on these inputs, stop production due to lack of raw product, or the Middle East countries that rely on the grains, have food shortages. The same will be happening everywhere, with governments doing the right thing by their people, in stopping exports..

The A.I. gives Australia 2 months until real trouble starts, and the world just 3 months of 20Mbbls/d of oil reductions before the end of industrial civilization become inevitable because of all the non linear cascades of feedback loops, brings it all down in about another 6 months at most.

It’s all a catch 22. What’s the point of having stocks or cash if it’s all over, but on the other hand what’s the good of getting rid of all your stocks and cash if the war finishes, inflation hits, and you have to pay your property tax bill, or lose your property??

There never was anyway out of the mess of modernity. We’re trapped in the system until the end, so nothing to worry about, just go along for the ride and enjoy the view…