Descending Into Madness

I think our society is going mad because there are so many overshoot related problems converging at once that our inherited denial mechanism is overloaded, with no leaders who understand what’s going on, few experts willing to speak publicly, and no honest discussion about what’s happening, nor what we should do.

I expect something will snap soon in a bad way.

Symptoms I see include:

  • We talk about everything except what matters. For example, our climate has shifted a gear, and peak oil is behind us, yet there is zero discussion about food security or the need for population reduction.
  • We’ve polarized into tribes that are unable to contemplate or respect or discuss the beliefs of another tribe. We attack or ignore opponents rather than engage in respectful debate. We’ve always tended to do this, but it’s getting worse.
  • Facts are irrelevant to beliefs. When facts are unsure or complex we are unable to admit uncertainty. While common throughout history, this phenomenon is getting worse, and is now pervasive in our intellectual leaders.
  • We’re totally dependent for everything we need to survive from other countries that we now view as enemies, yet we never discuss the need for more resilience.
  • We embrace solutions that have zero probability of improving a problem. Think green new deal.
  • Our response to problems often worsens the outcome. For example, printing trillions to further inflate a bubble that when it pops will do additional damage to that which we’re trying to protect.
  • We embrace leaders who created a problem to fix a problem, and there are no longer consequences for illegal or unethical behavior. Think Fauci.

This excellent new video has many useful insights despite the producers not being aware of Varki’s Mind Over Reality Transition (MORT) theory.

MASS PSYCHOSIS – How an Entire Population Becomes MENTALLY ILL

A mass psychosis is an epidemic of madness and it occurs when a large portion of the society loses touch with reality and descends into delusions.

Totalitarianism is the greatest threat.

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AJ
AJ
September 3, 2021 2:33 pm

Rob,
On August 13 you posted the following link:
https://patzek-lifeitself.blogspot.com/2021/08/a-letter-to-friend.html
I read Patzek’s essay which I believe I commented on favorably. However, he effusively quoted Andri Snaer Magnason’s new book “On Time and Water”. So, dumbass that I am I immediately ordered it (should have waited for someone else to spend the money to read and review it). It took a week or so to get here and then I got sick as everyone knows. I just finished reading it and was disappointed. Some very good prose and nice stories from Iceland and visits with the Dalai Lama. However, the author has no clue as to how far we are into overshoot, thinks technology will solve climate change (we always rose to the occasion in the past) and doesn’t seem to think population is the most pressing problem. Can’t seem to understand that we can’t live at the level of technology to which we have become accustomed. A lot of my criticisms of the book stem from his belief that his children, grandchildren and great grandchildren have a future (if we all work together we can solve anything -isn’t technology wonderful?). Maybe it’s because he isn’t a scientist, but mostly I chalk it up to denial about how bad our situation is. Maybe I’m a little unfair but I wasted a lot of free time on a book I would not have read based on Patzek’s favorable essay.
AJ

AJ
AJ
Reply to  Rob Mielcarski
September 2, 2021 2:06 pm

My only problem with JMG’s analysis is it avoids the positive feedback loops the climate appears to falling into. So, any prognostication about population and industrial output in 2050 is probably wildly optimistic. If we, as a civilization make it another 10 year without a drastic die-off and collapse I will be amazed.
AJ

madbobul
Reply to  Rob Mielcarski
September 5, 2021 12:12 am

All these points are very veritable…
From my side I will add what captured my attention:
“Some will see peak pollution, though that’s a little further in the future.”

Really?? What “little further in he future” means? Becasue as far as I can understand, 2030-2050 will be the time when first nuclear sites will be abandoned due to lack of resources to maintain them. I guess for JMG nuclear rubbish is not a big deal…

monkmil
Reply to  madbobul
September 5, 2021 2:46 pm

It might be helpful to bear in mind that JMG has Asperger Syndrome. These people can have a lot of difficulty with social and emotional behaviours, often causes them to communicate in ways that seem unnatural or even offensive to regular people. Autistic and aspergers people can focus on different things, often won’t have a strong emotional reaction to some crazy or scary things (like oh nuclear waste: that’s odd and interesting); while having very severe emotional reactions to everyday things (grocery shopping, talking to humans LOL). If they’re not strongly interested in something, it might not cross their radar as it would for a ‘neuro-typical’ person

smokie
smokie
Reply to  Rob Mielcarski
September 4, 2021 12:21 pm

I’m tossing JMG’s essays out with the bath water. JMG begins by saying, “I was ten years old when The Limits to Growth first saw print. I have a dim memory of seeing a newspaper article or two about it with this statement as a follow-up “It was not, as the corporate media insisted it was, a prophecy of doom. That’s one of the details that got swept under the rug by the mainstream back in the 1970s and still gets swept under the rug by the project’s critics today. The point of The Limits to Growth was that we as a species, and as a community of nations, had a choice.

Say what? We as a species had a choice? Does this guy even understand our species? Does this guy understand what he states in his essays? We had a choice but corporate media swept the prophecy of doom under the rug? Where’s the choice if “they” swept it under the rug?

“we didn’t make that choice while we could, and so it’s emotionally easier for a lot of people to insist that it was never an option at all.” Every day we make choices. Yesterday, today, and tomorrow we confront situations where we must make a choice whether it is “emotionally easier” or not. Since the publication of LTG we’ve decided NOT to make that choice that JMG says we didn’t make in the 70s. This guy lives in the 70s. Stop living in the past JMG.

“If people had listened and taken action fifty years ago when the warning was first given, we’d have had plenty of time to make a smooth transition to a sustainable steady-state economy, back when our resource demands were much lower than they are now and the planet’s capacity to manage pollution wasn’t anything like so overburdened.” JMG is a could have, would have, should have prophet of confusion. Stop reliving the past, sculpting your historical fantasy with the present. The global population was 3.7 billion people in 1970. Today we are nearing 7.9 billion. How the fuck did we miss that golden opportunity or as JMG would say missed choice to a better, brighter future.

“We didn’t do that, and now it’s too late. It really is as simple as that.” Nope it ain’t as simple as that. During the 60s and 70s civil rights and the vietnam war was front and center stage. JMG is directing our attention to those nasty people who, unlike himself with his dim memory, want to shift the blame and take what is his (If you want to know the details, I’ve written half a dozen books about that, and I’m far from the only writer to have done so).

As for the John Denver song, yuck! Rhymes and Reason was released in 1969 according the allmusic.com Get a better song to go out with JMG. I prefer the Jeff Beck Group’s song Going Down which was released the same year the LTG was published.

Go fuck yourself, it’s as simple as that JMG. Now to crawl back under my rock while I take a social media break.

smokie
smokie
Reply to  Rob Mielcarski
September 4, 2021 4:31 pm

“Acknowledging our genetic denial of unpleasant realities is unpleasant so therefore we will never acknowledge denial.”

You’ve got your denial and I’ve got mine.

monkmil
Reply to  Rob Mielcarski
September 3, 2021 2:35 am

Yes I nit-picked about the “solution” on LinkedIn and got some engineers grumpy. Australia gets the majority of its electricity from burning fossil fuels. EVs in Australia are just an expensive way to burn fossil fuels way less efficiently. Absolutely useless. Why is it so hard to accept that burning less carbon is the only possible “solution”. Which means we don’t need more of anything, or any new things. We just need to do less year on year. Blasphemy to argue this though apparently!

Diogenes Ostrich
Diogenes Ostrich
Reply to  Rob Mielcarski
September 2, 2021 10:57 am

Racaniello is definitely not ignorant about ivermectin. I watched TWiV many times early during the plandemic, and he and his guest doctor (name escapes me) were repeatedly ask to address vit D and IVM, to crickets in response. I stopped watching when said doc chuckled over his memories of Vioxx and what a good time he had being involved in that; no mention of the hundreds of thousands killed. Money was made. TWiV is just big pharma cheerleading.

Perran
Perran
September 1, 2021 7:29 pm

I finally got around to listening to the YouTube link in your article and enjoyed it. Thank you.
I came across this video in the feed below

I’ve watched it a couple of times and found it rather haunting. My overall takeaway from watching this is that there really is no meaning. All we have is the here and now. Depressing and yet rather liberating in a twisted way.
My other takeaway is that even total nihilists like my self need a degree of denial just to function.

monkmil
Reply to  Rob Mielcarski
September 3, 2021 2:28 am

Apparently humans alive today had a one in 12 chance of being alive at this time (rather than any time in the past where humans have existed). Why do we exist now??, well the odds were pretty good you’d be alive at this time 🙂

AJ
AJ
Reply to  Perran
September 2, 2021 1:49 pm

Rob,
On your recommendation I watched this. Depressing and liberating – yes. I agree that we really only have the here and now. I have felt more and more recently that the 14 billion years from the Big Bang to my consciousness (probably after age 40?) was like I was asleep and the countless ages from my death forward again will be like I am asleep. What is sleep other than a loss of consciousness – are we harmed by it? The universe existed before me without my being conscious of it and it will exist after my death without my being conscious of it. I would miss it if I was conscious but I won’t exist so. . .
As to the fate of the Universe. I am constantly and continuously amazed at how some marginal thinkers (physicists in particular) can delude themselves that they are geniuses because they can do math. I am reminded of Stephen J. Gould who complained that when he met Richard Feynman at Cal Tech, Feynman had the delusion that he could correct Gould and Darwin about biological evolution because he was a physicist genius. HUBRIS is not something lacking in any physicist I have read. Physicists as a group can’t begin to explain the Big Bang and what could have come before or what caused it – just the after effects. The whole of the video was just Hubristic speculation (based on the physicist who made it) who is in complete denial about the universe being beyond their puny ability to explain it (so they will bullshit with math). It is the height of hubris to suggest they can say how the universe ends AND not label it as mere mathematical speculation. I am of the belief that we are a semi-intelligent ape that evolved to be able to figure out social interactions in small groups and maximize our reproductive output while denying how ephemeral we are. That we (some of us) have sufficient brain power to stand in AWE of the universe and marvel at it for our “brief time in the sun” without denying that we are just “dust in the wind” is amazing.
As you can tell I have this thing with hubristic fools (the Greeks didn’t like them either).
AJ

Shawn
Shawn
Reply to  Rob Mielcarski
September 1, 2021 1:28 pm

One of the reasons I have been interested in following the SARsCOV19 alternative “don’t vax during a pandemic” views provided by Bossche and others, is the possibility that we will eventually learn the consensus science and public policies on the treatment of SARsCOV19 and COVID were wrong, or even very wrong. IF the medical/science/policy consensus turns out wrong on COVID, how wrong is the IPCC consensus about climate change?

This Mark Cranfield is a “25-year legal ins risk assessor” who, from his management of the data on twitter, seems to possess an a good analytical mind. But is he right about what he says in this twitter thread? Michael Mann, a very certified climate scientist, would say no, and that we can still turn this ship around. Mann has probably already blocked Cranfield on twitter as a doomer.

From Cranfield’s twitter thread: “Ice core studies tell us that the CO2 already in the air results in a ~4°C world.” “The reality is that, due to the thermal inertia of oceans and a positive Interdecadal Pacific Oscillation, 2°C is coming by 2045 entirely regardless of anything humanity does.”
“All fraudulent. There are no real-world carbon budgets. In fact, when the correct climate sensitivity is used, including slow feedbacks and GHG feedbacks, it’s obvious we are already at a level of carbon debt that defies belief.” “It can’t be overstated. This is the key deception.”
“For some reason this is being interpreted as meaning that 1.5°C could happen in 2040. No, 1.5°C will happen around 2030. 2°C could happen in 2040.”

Doug
Doug
Reply to  Rob Mielcarski
August 31, 2021 12:34 pm

Actually Rob, Tim did mention the need for population reduction and extreme birth control at the end of his article.
“Meanwhile, the only serious responses to climate change – such as a massive cut of the human population via extreme birth control, a massive collapse in economic activity and a huge cut to western living standards – dare not even be discussed. “

Gerry Kachmarski
Gerry Kachmarski
Reply to  Rob Mielcarski
September 4, 2021 5:22 pm

But you didn’t get the gist of the essay. That’s the whole point of the correction: you jumped to an unwarranted conclusion. Even as you supposedly acknowledge your error, you still attempt, in a back-handed fashion, to shift the responsibility to Watkins for having failed to discuss population reduction strategies to your satisfaction in the past. On the contrary, the responsibility is on you to read what he actually wrote, and then to re-evaluate your belief that Watkins somehow downplays overpopulation, either deciding that your initial appraisal was false, or that it was correct after all, or somewhere in between. That would require you to present a logical argument, with evidence, in support. So where is your argument?

smokie
smokie
Reply to  Rob Mielcarski
August 31, 2021 2:50 pm

I’m working on an idea: homo sapiens are blind to the fact that we are animals. once this fact is explained to us, we deny it.

Martin
Martin
August 31, 2021 6:45 am

Interesting: “Judge orders hospital to treat Ohio Covid patient with ivermectin”
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/aug/31/ivermectin-covid-ohio-judge-orders-hospital

monkmil
August 30, 2021 10:37 pm

Here’s a good article tackling denial around climate change and growth https://deirdrekent.com/our-climate-shituation/

nikoB
nikoB
August 30, 2021 9:21 pm

Just wondering how you are doing AJ?

AJ
AJ
Reply to  nikoB
August 31, 2021 2:19 am

Thanks for asking.
I am “recovered” – at least according to county health dept. They say that once you are 10 days past the start of symptoms you are no longer shedding live virus so you are free to go about your business. Since the testing facility uses a fast PCR test the county suggests you don’t bother getting tested again as it could easily be a false positive.
Physically I’m back to normal, except it took a toll on my level of energy. I fatigue more easily and am not pushing myself as hard (that stress could have been the cause of my having a more serious case of covid). My wife tested positive yesterday, but her case has been more like a normal head cold – runny nose, cough, no fever. She is already recovering.
My take away is I will probably go to town even less as I don’t want what will be the next variant. Once was enough. I will continue with the Quercitin, Zinc, Vit D & C, melatonin with Ivermectin in reserve AND using masks. As for booster shots? I doubt it.
AJ

nikoB
nikoB
Reply to  AJ
August 31, 2021 7:20 am

Great to hear you are recovering nicely AJ.
Look after yourself.
Niko

smokie
smokie
Reply to  Rob Mielcarski
August 31, 2021 2:43 pm

My favorite: “George W. Bush should have known from the outcome of the 20-year Vietnam conflict (1955-1975) that any guerrilla war was likely to have a bad ending. In Afghanistan, the plan was to train Afghan soldiers, thus keeping US citizens out of the battlefield. This strategy kept the Afghan conflict off the front page of US newspapers, but the overall result seems to be similar.”

smokie
smokie
August 29, 2021 3:42 pm

smokie
smokie
August 27, 2021 12:42 pm

For the past four years (to the month), I’ve been reading books, blogs, posts and comments about our extremely complex situation. At various points along the way I find myself descending into madness especially when I read, “The grand canyon was not carved over millions of years. Try under 5yrs. Only time in my life I have ever seen straight walls in water flow paths is when it is moving like a freight train relative to it’s scale. Water is scale invariant, what occurs on the micro occurs in the macro. Grand canyon last I remember does not have many spots where it breaks off into a 45degree slope indicative of a period of lazy flow…” FYI This post was not removed because the person was venting. However, if anyone questions the COVID narrative that comment or post will be removed because it is “provably false”.

The Weaponization of Medicine by Paul Rosenberg (excerpt below)

#1: Science is not consensus. Ten, one hundred, or a million people, all draped in lab coats and saying the same thing, does NOT make it so. In fact, it matters not at all. It’s nothing but theater, and it’s anti-science.

All science is, really, is a process of testing ideas; it is not an organization, it is not based upon authority (it’s inherently anti-authority), and it is very certainly not allied with power. All that matters in science are verifiable results.

#2: Medicine stands apart from, and above, politics. Medicine is the application of science to the furtherance of human health. Politics is the use of persuasion and power to rule masses of humans. These are fully separate disciplines. To place politics over medicine is to subjugate and degrade medicine: it’s a path backwards into darkness.

I’ll leave details on this point to working medical practitioners, who can provide them with far greater specificity than I can… provided they’re not too frightened to do so.

#3: Peer review no longer means much. Again I won’t go into great detail, but peer review has been captured by academic hierarchies and almost fully separated from science proper. It has become a tool of institutional power, wielded by academics who have sold out science for the favors of power and politics.

At one time, “peer review” referred to the honest replication of experiments. That time is past.

#4: Medicine and science have nothing to do with social pressure. Once “medicine” and “science” are mixed with social pressure, they are no longer science or medicine. At that point they are instruments of thuggery, and nothing more.

#5: If you don’t read multiple scientific papers, especially from rebels and cast-outs, you simply don’t know. You can pretend you know, of course, and you can be sure that agents of the status quo will provide you with passable reasons to repeat their slogans, but you won’t actually know.

What you see on TV is propaganda. What you see on Facebook, Twitter and YouTube is pre-censored. If you want to really know, you’ll have to find the scientific papers that address your question… and you’ll need papers that are rejected by televised authorities. If you don’t, all you’ll have are pre-censored conclusions, the underlying facts of which may or may not be reliable.

At this point, if you don’t include “conspiracy theory” research, you’re more or less stuck with Orwell’s Ministry of Truth. Sad but mostly true.

https://freemansperspective.com/the-weaponization-of-medicine/

So yes, TPTB have a vested interest in keeping the narrative flowing in a certain direction that keeps us in denial. Too much time is required from the simple minded worker bee to understand these concepts: overshoot, overpopulation, overconsumption, and energy flows and matter cycles all of which is rather overwhelming. Only an elite few can reach that summit to say, “It’s an overshoot loop”. To add insult to injury we discuss this over the internet instead of sitting in a cafe where I can enjoy a strong cup of coffee and a piece of chocolate while I look into your denying eyes. We are all deniers in some fashion. Alas…

“One way or another, you’re eventually bound to return to times of sustainably tapping natural energy flows. ‘Growing Forever’ makes sense only to human economists and cancer cells. As wise human Lamont Cole said, ‘Growth is the philosophy of the cancer cell and soon consumes the host.'” ~ Nate Hagens, Reality Blind

smokie
smokie
Reply to  Rob Mielcarski
August 28, 2021 5:00 pm

sometimes i get this wild and crazy idea that a refresher course in chemistry, physics, geology or lower level math would be fun … then i smoke a bowl of weed and let that idea float right by me 😉

Mandrake
Mandrake
Reply to  smokie
August 29, 2021 1:47 am

if you ever get tired of your purple haze
https://quitmarijuana.org/